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Holy cow, so the Hosts are... (spoiler)


Robots?
On the other hand they were called aliens by Snyder, not alien robots. Just aliens. Which I associated with biological entities.
Thoughts?

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We don't know really since parcel info on anything so slowly here, just more Cuse Chicanery....

Are the aliens AI... Or do the glowing balls just hold their consciousness? ... Or maybe they are meta humans from the future and all that's left of humanity are our consciousness in those balls?
Who knows, maybe the balls just hold Picachus

Just don't want this cancelled with no resolution unless Cuse makes it another Pulgatory BS

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Alien tech is still alien. But I was hoping they were biosuits containing something organic, living tissue etc. Maybe the hosts are telekenetically linked via the pokeballs. They just transferred the important bit to another working body.

A voting council of robots sounds silly, to be honest. Somehow it's harder to swallow when they're not even skinjobs (e.g. replicants, cylons). We still don't know what they want. At this point I need a backstory or they might as well be making it up as they go along.

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There looks to be a fair amount of pre-planning in this show. The first time Will sees a drone up close for instance, in season 1 with Beau, it comes down and looks at him like the one on the wall did, then flies away. We just didn't realize there was any significance to that at the time. They seem to be filling in the backstory in bits and pieces. Not always at the beginning of an episode where that information figures in either, the way you'd expect.

I'm guessing the droids are surrogate bodies and that sphere thing probably holds the consciousness of an alien. The procedure they performed transferred the information on the damaged one to a new one, something like that. But if one of them didn't die when a Host Unit was destroyed they wouldn't get pissed enough to nuke a whole city in retaliation. Remotely controlled hardware isn't as big a deal. They'd send us a bill or something. Either the raps are organic beings that never come down from their ship (afraid humans would kill them, can't survive the environment, whatever) or they're machine life forms, and those particular bodies may have been reconfigured to a humanoid appearance to make dealing with us a little easier. If Will and the rest make it to the resistance we'll get to meet their rap and find out.

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That's a really good point about retaliation had the host been completely destroyed. I'm more open-minded now about the possibility of many alien techno-consciousnesses existing. It makes the question 'what they need humans for' more interesting. Maybe they are intent on creating a hybrid race using the modified human body as vessel. I imagine they could have ethical differences about their use/slaughter of humans as we might about "lesser" animals.

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I think in this case it's more like the difference between us and people living in a primitive tribe. They're not any dumber than we are, what they lack (our advantage over them if you will) is knowledge.

Their reason for needing humans is an important unanswered question. We still don't know what they actually MAKE at the Factory. As for the people they pack in cryostasis pods and ship ... who knows where, if Will and Broussard are typical of the subjects on their do-not-kill list it seems like they're looking for soldiers. Both men are highly intelligent and well trained, the best at what they do. It's possible they need cannon fodder for a war they're fighting somewhere else. Or they want to breed an army to fight that war, using the best stock available.

Humans who have lived in their own civilization with all these ideas about rights and freedoms can only be molded so much. But a whole generation of children born and raised in military school type environments where they're taught loyalty and obedience from early on - they would make an ideal slave army. Perhaps the ones they abducted from Earth (in addition to supplying DNA) would become the instructors at those schools in exchange for being allowed to live, and even granted a reasonable level of comfort. If the raps are facing an enemy with a huge numerical advantage this would be an ideal way to level the playing field without massive casualties among their own kind. Human slaves would do most of the dying for them.

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It's pretty dumb IMO. If they're so advanced why do they (whatever is in the orb) need to be in the mech suits? Just plug the orbs into a communications device on their ship and control the suits down on Earth. No risking their lives. If the resistance takes one, no big deal, just press a self destruct button or have a dead mans switch which activates after a predetermined time of no comms from the control ship.

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Yes, I don't know where they are going with this. It's becoming silly.

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From what I understand they had a six season story arc planned out from the very beginning; not every nuance of every episode of course, but all the backstory and major plot milestones. The entire series basically already exists in outline form. Which means they're not just making up key details as they go. Josh Holloway has already done one show that started with promise but had a disappointing end. I hope they don't do it to him again!

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Yes, I do fear it. Their track record is terrible. I truly lament the hours of my life I lost with Lost, pun intended. So much expectation, and such a fizzle at the end!

So far I've mostly loved Colony but just knowing who is behind it gives me she shivers.

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I'm prepared to at least give them the benefit of the doubt. If it turns out I waste six seasons watching this show for a lame ending, I will track down Ryan Condal and Carlton Cuse and take my revenge Negan style.

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Oh God, me too. I never knew who to blame - Cuse or Lindelof (or Abrams even), but I lost 6 years of my life to it - or 1 anyway - the first 5 I'm ok with losing. I take the fact that these guys "know" 6 seasons of what's going to happen with a big grain of Smoke Monster salt.

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I'm assuming the orb thingie points toward cyborg - that there's SOME bionic elements to these guys. I'm hoping they're soldiers, half alien, half machine.

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I just hope that after six seasons we don't learn that the whole deal is utterly stupid.

Expanding on what someone here said, the aliens do have drones that are remotely controlled, so if their consciousness resides inside a small ball, why risk sending it down inside robots/mechs? They could control the mechs remotely too.

The "Humans from the Future" theory, I find it less likely because of the three-fingered mech. Maybe a minor detail but if they wanted to build a bipedal cyborg with their consciousness, I'd expect that if they gave the machine the trouble of looking human-sized and with four limbs, then they'd also use five fingers.

So I'm assuming the original biological aliens did have three fingers which makes of them non-human.

Besides, it seems like the creators have already confirmed in interviews that the aliens are, well, aliens, as in ETs.

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Totally agree. And if Cuse learned one thing from Lost, it's freakin' show your audience as much as possible as soon as possible. The more details the better. Nobody likes a long-term mystery, especially one with a disappointing answer.

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Well he obviously hasn't learned it since we didn't see much regarding these aliens in two full seasons.

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We definitely need to see them, and learn some basic details of their mission, in season 3. If they're kept at arm's length too much longer just about any reveal will be anticlimactic.

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Well said.

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Very true.

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Maybe the aliens use androids for the down-and-dirty fighting while the real aliens stay safely away.

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