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Very powerful and affecting, but could have been even better


One of the best movies I've seen so far this year. The only other movie in the same class is "Hell or High Water".

First, it was very well paced. I never felt for a minute that it was dragging. Also, in a weird way I felt like it was less violent than it could have been. Of course it gets pretty violent in the second half, after the rebellion starts, but the first half of the movie is pretty sedate and does a good job of developing the characters and showing what ordinary life on a "good" plantation was like. This makes the second half more effective because we know what the characters are like.

By contrast "12 years a slave" seemed almost too unrelentingly grim for me, as it was just violent almost from beginning to end. Of course this reflects the reality that Solomon Northup was sold to Louisiana while Nat Turner was in southern Virginia and the sugar plantations in Louisiana had a much more brutal kind of slavery.

The acting was also good all around. Nobody really strikes a false note or overacts and they hit the emotional and comedic moments out of the park.

One criticism I've heard which I can sort of see is that the music is too noticeable at times. It's effective, but sometimes it's very "on the nose" in the more dramatic scenes.

But the other main criticism is that the film engages very well with the emotionally with Nat Turner's rebellion but it could have engaged more intellectually. What was the ultimate meaning of the revolt? How did Nat Turner finally think of what he did? What did the other slaves think? Was he prophet or a fanatic? The movie doesn't really go far in with these kind of questions. As it stands it felt a little bit too straightforward.

But this may have been a deliberate choice on the part of the filmmakers and there's always the possibility that I missed some of the subtle aspects.

But overall, it's definitely worth seeing and just a plain enjoyable movie.

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What was the ultimate meaning of the revolt?


How about he simply got sick and tired of a lifetime of being and watching the people he loved dehumanized and terrorized endlessly. So he psychologically snapped.

Why is that not enough of an explanation?






No man lies so boldly as the man who is indignant.

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Much like you, Georgie porgie. When will you snap? How much more can you watch, seeing white devil react so relentlessly to your labor of love? Poor Georgie, no pie for you. Good luck with 'Beyond The Lights 2'... Maybe you and ol Spike can hold white bashing conferences with the extras during lunch break?

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Much like you, Georgie porgie. When will you snap? How much more can you watch, seeing white devil react so relentlessly to your labor of love? Poor Georgie, no pie for you. Good luck with 'Beyond The Lights 2'... Maybe you and ol Spike can hold white bashing conferences with the extras during lunch break?


stop taking a movie so personally. jeez.

none of what you posted has anything to do with the film.

"Please disabuse yourself of the notion that my purpose on earth is to tuck ignorance in at night."

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stop taking a movie so personally. jeez.

I think if posters on IMDB took this advice 90% of the threads would be gone. Truthfully that'd probably be a good thing as you would then have people talking about the actual movie.

I've baited my hook with my own underwear. Is it wrong that I hope to catch a fish I can relate to?-Ragdoll.

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So how can a lie of a movie be "powerful" and "moving". Read the true story of Nat Turner. He was psychotic and hearing voices. His so called "uprising" killed mostly women and children in their beds. This movie couldn't have been worse. It more closely resembles propaganda put out by the Nazi's. He got hundreds of blacks killed with his insane rants.

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