I simply recognize dishonesty or fraud when I see it.
This time it's my turn. No thanks. I see the pattern, and I think I'm about done here.
Because, I too have come to recognize that like virtually all the dozens and dozens of others before you here, nothing is going to penetrate your extreme NEED to see this movie as some sort of unique invitation to (or at the very least, condoning of) racial brutality against white people. Endlessly justified in your head, by all the countless other historical instances of such things, being seen as either "not as bad as people have been taught", or else "ancient history that's not like that anymore".
So, in absolutely no uncertain terms:
Only people with an extremely broken moral compass compulsively
NEED to avoid looking at, and/or attempt to minimize the endless sufferings and brutal murders of tens of millions (instead of, for example, that
handy 2 to 3 million number that you "understand" to be the truth) of OTHER women and children. And with that, to focus endlessly on an event portraying the deaths of 50...waaaaay out of proportion. Along with continuing a conspiracy of silence, of over 100 years of completely whitewashed cinematic portrayals of it all. No matter how insanely brutal. And instead, trying endlessly to steer all conversations in the direction of the supposed "racialized" brutality and "dishonesty" of this one single film.
I've already encountered far too many others before you with that same completely unconscious, yet unbreakable death-grip on defending their supposed whiteness from what they perceive as "exaggerated" and "dishonest" interpretations of history.
And again, NOTHING is pretty much EVER gonna penetrate that mindset!
So...
No thanks.
Have a large day.
No man lies so boldly as the man who is indignant.
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danwtaliaferro
8 years ago
littlegeorgie, I merely post true historical facts. I regret that you believe there were 20,000,000 native Americans when Columbus arrived in the New World, but most historians and anthropologists believe the number was 2 or 3 million. A few say as high as 8 million, but they are the exception. I further regret that you believe European settlers murdered tens of millions of native American children when 90% of all native American deaths were due to their having immune systems incapable of protecting themselves from European diseases like smallpox. I invite you to read "Guns, Germs, and Steel" for a better understanding of this phenomenon.
You can wallow in victimhood all you like as that appears to be your proclivity. Slavery was and is a horrible system that all people and all races have been victims of, as well as been perpetrators of at some time in history. No race is superior to another. All races have suffered all manner of depredation at some point in history. None are special and none are blameless.
Thus movie of Nat Turner is a fraud in that it omits important details of his rebellion and of his beliefs and actions. It is no less a fraud than the original movie of the same title. The original portrayed the KKK as a beneficial organization protecting white women from barbarian African Americans when we know it was a terrorist organization. The new film portrays Nat Turner as a brave and heroic freedom fighter but overlooks the simple fact that 2/3s of the people he and his men murdered were defenseless infants, children, and women. Moreover, Turner never engaged in hand to hand combat with any white men; rather, they fired upon his band with rifles, his men dispersed, and he ran off to hide in the woods for months before meekly surrendering to a farmer. Somehow these details escaped the filmmaker's camera, but he did manage to invent a rape of a black woman that never occurred. Strange how he would do that when the filmmaker himself, before marrying a white woman, was once accused of raping a white woman and stood trial for it. He is also on record as refusing to ever play a gay man because he believes he has to, in his own words, "protect the black man." It sounds like he has, as they say "issues."
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littlegeorgie
8 years ago
***Edited***
The new film portrays Nat Turner as a brave and heroic freedom fighter but overlooks the simple fact that 2/3s of the people he and his men murdered were defenseless infants, children, and women. Moreover, Turner never engaged in hand to hand combat with any white men; rather, they fired upon his band with rifles, his men dispersed, and he ran off to hide in the woods for months before meekly surrendering to a farmer. Somehow these details escaped the filmmaker's camera, but he did manage to invent a rape of a black woman that never occurred. Strange how he would do that when the filmmaker himself, before marrying a white woman, was once accused of raping a white woman and stood trial for it. He is also on record as refusing to ever play a gay man because he believes he has to, in his own words, "protect the black man." It sounds like he has, as they say "issues."
That's an awful lot of racialized descriptors for one very ugly paragraph. It appears your true heart about the subject of race is quickly exposing itself.
Please stop now. I will no longer engage your "issues".
PS
If, in fact, that is your real name you're using, such a post has the potential to be somewhat problematic, if one's place of employment manages to acquire access to your online history here.
No man lies so boldly as the man who is indignant.
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solex10
8 years ago
^You said it, sir; I'm in complete agreement. I wish that I could be as good as you doing this when calling out these morons about the new Ghostbusters movie.
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littlegeorgie
8 years ago
Thank you.
But, in actuality, it is virtually never my intention to "call people out". I simply try to put the real truth of our sordid racial history out there. So that people then have a choice to either pick it up and look at it honestly for the first time...or else, simply pee on it. Fully recognizing (as with the previous gentleman) that the vast majority of so-called whites that would tend to visit a board like this in the first place, have been fully conditioned to NEED to believe certain "rose-colored" things about America and it's history with race. And as such, I generally don't take their, mostly involuntary, responses too personally. Because I understand the psychology of where it comes from. It's a full-blown psychological NEED. So instead, I generally don't allow such conversations to turn into long, repetitive and pointless exchanges. And it's that abruptness that I imagine tends to be perceived as "calling people out". But typically, that's far from what I'm setting out to do here.
The painful truth is there's no real need for such a mentality. Because what these people are unknowingly fighting against is simply...RACIAL change. Change to the millions of lies that we've all been endlessly taught to believe about America's downright barbaric racial past. And along with it, change to the long-held image of what America's future is "supposed" to ALWAYS "look" like.
But, here's the fun part. Because of our current huge demographic shift, both of those types of change that I described, that they're (mostly unconsciously) fighting against, have already been happening for over 50 years! So, in actuality, it's already pretty much too late to fight against it! It's pretty much now all strictly a comically symbolic fight about whether or not to finally START accepting the racial change in America that has actually already been happening...for over half a century! So, in a very real sense, the current racial upheaval in America is indeed comical, when viewed through that particular lens. Most of the fight is already done. It's now mostly an issue of white acceptance, of what is pretty much obvious reality for everyone else...
Times have ALREADY changed (demographically) pretty drastically in the last 50 years. Continuing to fight about it (and "call people out") is now mostly unnecessary. Because it's mainly people who aren't psychologically well that are still persisting in fighting. And you're generally not going to reach those kind of people, no matter what you say. So I say, just tell the truth. And let those people either catch up eventually, or else endlessly stew in the more and more isolating consequences of their own willful ignorance.
Best wishes.
No man lies so boldly as the man who is indignant.
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