Are some you guys dense or something? I HATE that stupid logic. Killing even MORE women and children doesn't make things any better. The only reason people keep bringing up Nat Turner's murdering ways, is because some of you guys talk as if he is a "hero" or something. While the rest of us aren't on anyone's side at all.
shareIt wasn't in the interest of the slaveowner to kill his slaves.
shareIt's the same logic used today when an innocent black person is killed by a cop, it's okay to kill innocent police officers who had nothing to do with the innocent black person's shooting.
Violence and killing doesn't accomplish any thing, especially justice. Time for attitude changes on both sides of the fence.
It's the same logic used today when an innocent black person is killed by a cop, it's okay to kill innocent police officers who had nothing to do with the innocent black person's shooting.
I'm talking about the ones that are unarmed and not making any threatening moves towards a police officer. A guy sitting in his car, taking out his wallet and being shot is not innocent? A guy walking away from the police but is shot several times is not innocent? Although they may have had a criminal past, does it mean they should be killed if they are not armed?
Police have one of the hardest and stressful jobs and I appreciate all that they do, especailly the majority of the men and women who do their jobs to protect and serve. They have to deal with sh!tty attitudes all the time from the black community and from everybody else.
What innocent black person?
Every case I've looked at that BLM protesters have complained about, it always turns out that the guy who was shot had a lengthy criminal record,
Every case I've looked at that BLM protesters have complained about, it always turns out that the guy who was shot had a lengthy criminal record, was in the process of commiting a crime when he got shot, or didn't follow the police officers commands and reached into his pockets for an object that looked like a gun (like the recent case in southern california).
It wasn't in the interest of the slaveowner to kill his slaves.
far more died in the atlantic crossings and such than were allowed the gift of becomes slaves, my friend.
being involved in slavery means you accept that millions died for you to be supplied your slaves, therefore you would as a slave owner be happily in acceptance of killing millions of them.
Nat Turner accomplished nothing. He just killed women and children and than died and got hundreds of blacks lynched as revenge for his uprising. This idea that Nat Turners rebellion helped end slavery is laughable. The two most important men in the ending of slavery were Abe Lincoln and John Brown because only white people could have ended slavery in America at that time.
shareThis idea that Nat Turners rebellion helped end slavery is laughable.
He's right about that. God had to awaken the consciousness of white people to end slavery because blacks couldn't do it themselves.
shareNo. He's dead f'ing wrong!
Because if REAL consciousness had been awakened, it wouldn't have been seamlessly followed by 100 more years of legal Apartheid. It wasn't ended. It was simply replaced with something technically different, but in reality only marginally less violent to blacks. In no uncertain terms, racial terrorism and extrajudicial death were still just a heartbeat away at any given moment. Because while Southerners could no longer legally own blacks, millions of them were still VIOLENTLY tied to the lands, and lives of still almost total subservience to whites, by means of sharecropping and other underhanded tactics that had virtually the same net effect as slavery. No real freedom to dictate one's own future. And only a very marginal (at best) sense of actual self-determination. Two foundational hallmarks of what we now know to be basic human rights.
Consciousness is STILL far from being awakened!
Because there still exists two arbitrary and artificial distinctions called "whiteness" and "blackness". And it's no more of an accident now than it was in the 1660's when they were created.
No man lies so boldly as the man who is indignant.
I've heard lots of people try to argue this in university history classes and there was a thread about it on here prior to the film's release. In reality it did the opposite and made it harder to end slavery.
sharein reality it was the actions of white people who made it harder.
not the actions of a guy trying to free his people.
You're right about that. Try to talk a little more respectful next time though
shareread up on your history. abe didn't end slavery for black people to have rights, he ended slavery to get back at the south, economically. abe has stated that whites are superior to black people, and deserve more rights and shouldn't live among each other. he was a white supremacist. right after slavery jobs/resources were kept away from black people, and thousands were funneled into concentration camps, and jim crow laws were created.
i've got feelings too, ya know - inbetweeners
http://melanoidnation.org/white-man-warns-all-black
I think it is you who needs to brush up on history. Ignorance is bliss huh?
shareI think it is you who needs to brush up on history. Ignorance is bliss huh?
I'm going to have tell you someting.
Lincoln Had to say whites were inferior to blacks! In that politically charged climate, many of those in the north was racist also and Lincoln had to appeal to them.
However, Lincoln revealed his true feelings of the heart in a half-like appology to a meeting of prominent black leaders in 1862. After reading all the things which was said after that meeting, I finally understood. Linocoln was trying to warn blacks of the coming calamity and racial oppression that would probably follow after he left office. That's why he urged blacks to colonize in South America and on the islands around South Carolina. He knew and acknowledged that racism was too strong in the United States and that they (the blacks)would never achieve the full social equality they would desire. He repeatedly tried to warn our ancestors of this.
If blacks had taken lincon's advice, they would never have had to endure the strong wave of racial oppression of Jim Crow and the return of racism we're having today under the republican party. Like the native Indians, they would have been able to form their own community/nation within the bounds of the US. It's too bad our ancestors didn't take Lincoln's advice.
http://www.etymonline.com/cw/lincoln.htm
Lincoln Had to say whites were inferior to blacks! In that politically charged climate, many of those in the north was racist also and Lincoln had to appeal to them
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Lincoln revealed his true feelings of the heart in a half-like appology to a meeting of prominent black leaders in 1862. After reading all the things which was said after that meeting, I finally understood. Linocoln was trying to warn blacks of the coming calamity and racial oppression that would probably follow after he left office
biggest pile o crap i've ever heard. 
If blacks had taken lincon's advice, they would never have had to endure the strong wave of racial oppression of Jim Crow
SO NOW IT'S BLACK PEOPLE'S FAULT THAT THEY WERE OPPRESSED???? 
HOW ABOUT NOT PRACTICING WHITE SUPREMACY IN THE FIRST PLACE? the lengths you white supremacists will go through to justify your demonic behavior...even if what you said was true, he's a coward who did the work of the white supremacists, which makes him a white supremacist. black people in south america are still funneled into shanty towns, you idiot 
i've got feelings too, ya know - inbetweeners
http://melanoidnation.org/white-man-warns-all-black
I've read more of that user's posts and he doesn't sound like a white supremacist to me.
sharehe sounds like a suspected white supremacist, defending another white supremacist. the fact that you would try to defend that guy after he said black people were at fault for their own oppression, makes you suspect as well.
i've got feelings too, ya know - inbetweeners
http://melanoidnation.org/white-man-warns-all-black
Lol read some of my other posts and of his other posts. How can I be a white supremacist if I'm not even white? I could pass for white, but I'm not. I am of the Romani people and if anyone knows about suffering, it's my people. Think slavery + oppression + the witch trials + the holocaust. You get the idea.
shareLol read some of my other posts and of his other posts. How can I be a white supremacist if I'm not even white? I could pass for white, but I'm not. I am of the Romani people and if anyone knows about suffering, it's my people. Think slavery + oppression + the witch trials + the holocaust. You get the idea.
"You don't have to be white to be a white supremacist"? I think the both of you are trolls. Just because I said I don't think the other guy is a white supremacist makes the both of us white supremacists? Why don't you do a little research about my people before you have a big mouth like that? How dare you question what my people went through? You must be a vile person.
sharei don't have to read your or his post history. these posts right here are enough to suspect that you might be a white supremacist.
How can I be a white supremacist if I'm not even white? I could pass for white, but I'm not. I am of the Romani people and if anyone knows about suffering
  http://melanoidnation.org/the-white-supremacist-tactic-of-temporary-denying-whiteness/
i've got feelings too, ya know - inbetweeners
http://melanoidnation.org/white-man-warns-all-black
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he sounds like a suspected white supremacist, defending another white supremacist. the fact that you would try to defend that guy after he said black people were at fault for their own oppression, makes you suspect as well.
SO NOW IT'S BLACK PEOPLE'S FAULT THAT THEY WERE OPPRESSED????
HOW ABOUT NOT PRACTICING WHITE SUPREMACY IN THE FIRST PLACE? the lengths you white supremacists will go through to justify your demonic behavior...even if what you said was true, he's a coward who did the work of the white supremacists, which makes him a white supremacist. black people in south america are still funneled into shanty towns, you idiot
biggest pile o crap i've ever heard.
black people in south america are still funneled into shanty towns, you idiot
How about the fact that while There SHould Not be White supremacy in the first place, WE HAD NO CHOICE ABOUT IT! AS LINCOLN SAID, HATE AGAINST BLACKS IS DEEPLY INGRAINED IN WHITE CULTURE! AND THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT! WHITES ARE THE PREDOMINATE MEMBERS OF SOCIETY, HAVE ALL THE POLITICAL PULL, AND HAVE ALL OF THE MILITARY STRENGTH, AND HAVE CONTROL OF THE MASS MEDIA WHICH IS USED TO SPREAD RACISM! SO IN ESSENCE, BLACKS HAD EVERYTHING TO LOSE BY STAY HERE AND THIS GENERATION IS SEEING THE LINGERING EFFECTS TO THIS DAY
and abe is still a white supremacist, and said in his own words that whites were superior. you don't get more clear than that. now, where on this planet would black people been able to escape systematic white supremacy. south america is riddled with white supremacy. and you continue to blame black people for white supremacist's actions
And the years after his death all the way to the 1960s, when blacks suffered abuse after abuse, proved that Lincoln was right
because white supremacy is not a one man show. white supremacist work collectively to keep it alive, you idiot
They (the Indians) don't have to worry about state or county police as they have their own Indian tribal police system set up by their various tribes, they don't have to worry about government taxes or other restrictions
BECAUSE WHITES GAVE IT TO THEM, YOU IDIOT. JUST LIKE WHITES PLAYED THAT 5 DOLLAR INDIAN TO GET THOSE BENEFITS. JUST LIKE NON BLACK IMMIGRANTS ARE GIVEN MORE RESOURCES THAN AFRICAN AMERICANS. THEY DIDN'T EARN ANYTHING. THE WHITE SUPREMACIST ALLOWED THAT. JUST LIKE THEY ALLOWED ROSEWOOD AND TULSA RACE RIOT.
YOU ARE BLOCKED. YOU RACIST POS
i've got feelings too, ya know - inbetweeners
http://melanoidnation.org/white-man-warns-all-black
and abe is still a white supremacist, and said in his own words that whites were superior. you don't get more clear than that. now, where on this planet would black people been able to escape systematic white supremacy. south america is riddled with white supremacy. and you continue to blame black people for white supremacist's actions
because white supremacy is not a one man show. white supremacist work collectively to keep it alive, you idiot
BECAUSE WHITES GAVE IT TO THEM, YOU IDIOT. JUST LIKE WHITES PLAYED THAT 5 DOLLAR INDIAN TO GET THOSE BENEFITS. JUST LIKE NON BLACK IMMIGRANTS ARE GIVEN MORE RESOURCES THAN AFRICAN AMERICANS. THEY DIDN'T EARN ANYTHING. THE WHITE SUPREMACIST ALLOWED THAT. JUST LIKE THEY ALLOWED ROSEWOOD AND TULSA RACE RIOT.
YOU ARE BLOCKED. YOU RACIST POS
I'm going to have tell you someting.
Lincoln Had to say whites were inferior to blacks! In that politically charged climate, many of those in the north was racist also and Lincoln had to appeal to them.
However, Lincoln revealed his true feelings of the heart in a half-like appology to a meeting of prominent black leaders in 1862. After reading all the things which was said after that meeting, I finally understood. Linocoln was trying to warn blacks of the coming calamity and racial oppression that would probably follow after he left office. That's why he urged blacks to colonize in South America and on the islands around South Carolina. He knew and acknowledged that racism was too strong in the United States and that they (the blacks)would never achieve the full social equality they would desire. He repeatedly tried to warn our ancestors of this.
So no, Lincoln was no racist and that myth of calling him racist was gleefully used by bigots to support the theory that Lincoln didn't call about him.
If blacks had taken lincon's advice, they would never have had to endure the strong wave of racial oppression of Jim Crow and the return of racism we're having today under the republican party. Like the native Indians, they would have been able to form their own community/nation within the bounds of the US. It's too bad our ancestors didn't take Lincoln's advice.
http://www.etymonline.com/cw/lincoln.htm
I'm going to have tell you someting.
Lincoln Had to say whites were inferior to blacks! In that politically charged climate, many of those in the north was racist also and Lincoln had to appeal to them.
However, Lincoln revealed his true feelings of the heart in a half-like appology to a meeting of prominent black leaders in 1862. After reading all the things which was said after that meeting, I finally understood. Linocoln was trying to warn blacks of the coming calamity and racial oppression that would probably follow after he left office. That's why he urged blacks to colonize in South America and on the islands around South Carolina. He knew and acknowledged that racism was too strong in the United States and that they (the blacks)would never achieve the full social equality they would desire. He repeatedly tried to warn our ancestors of this.
So no, Lincoln was no racist and that myth of calling him racist was gleefully used by bigots to support the theory that Lincoln didn't call about us.
If blacks had taken lincon's advice, they would never have had to endure the strong wave of racial oppression of Jim Crow and the return of racism we're having today under the republican party. Like the native Indians, they would have been able to form their own community/nation within the bounds of the US. It's too bad our ancestors didn't take Lincoln's advice.
http://www.etymonline.com/cw/lincoln.htm
read up on your history. abe didn't end slavery for black people to have rights, he ended slavery to get back at the south, economically. abe has stated that whites are superior to black people, and deserve more rights and shouldn't live among each other. he was a white supremacist. right after slavery jobs/resources were kept away from black people, and thousands were funneled into concentration camps, and jim crow laws were created.
so when Lincoln ordered slaves to be freed, the slaves were incapable of accepting they had been freed and just stuck around being slaves yeh?
shareenough of that ''two wrongs don't make a right'' rhetoric. how about stopping the FIRST wrong so the second ''wrong'' doesn't happen.
i've got feelings too, ya know - inbetweeners
http://melanoidnation.org/white-man-warns-all-black
I got a better question. How is killing innocent men not considered as bad as killing women and children.
sharemarginally worse to kill children since they you are taking away potentially more years.
and more cowardly to attack someone perceived as weaker, so theres that.
otherwise all lives are equal in worth ultimately.