Demographics for the shooter
This series is like watching those American TVs programs on discovery channels glorifying guns and hillbilly mentality.
share...if you saw the movie, the snow scene where the senator gets the tape off Swagger he says..."Im just a peckerwood who lives in the mountains with too many guns.."
So, yeah in a way many gun owners can be considered blue collar, hill billy,
But just so you know our special forces elite is made up of 80% Whiteboys...15% Latino and American indian...and 1% Black...
So chew on that for a minute and you get an idea of why Every single sniper from Carlos Hathcock to Chris Kyle was...yep. White boy.
Why?Don't know...don't care just the way it is. Stay frosty yall
The Army Special Forces, known by distinctive green berets, has 234 African-American officers and soldiers in a force of 5,200 men. Blacks make up 4.5 percent of the Green Berets, compared with nearly 24 percent of the male soldiers in the Army.
Stereotypical black kids don't grow up wanting to be gung ho commandos. If the do join the military, usually it's for a career. But the black guys I've known, that served at the tip of the spear, mostly grew up among white friends, and had the same aspirations as their white friends.
Defense Secretary Ashton Carter has asked the services to explain the disparities and find ways to address them, according to a senior Defense official with knowledge of the issue who was not authorized to speak publicly and insisted on anonymity. The lack of diversity in special operations forces stems largely from the choices young recruits make when they join, not overt bias, the official said.
This is more about exposure, than anything. You are right that there is no shortage of hilljacks in these types of professions, and they are some damn fine warfighters that everyone wants standing next to them when the balloon goes up. That being said, some very fine African Americans have served in the Special Operations community, and there is a real effort to recruit more. As the experts at the Pentagon know this lack of minorities robs the military of skills it needs to win. Especially considering where the US operates now.
"We don't know where we will find ourselves in the future," said Army Col. Michael Copenhaver, who has published a paper on diversity in special operating forces. "One thing is for sure: We will find ourselves around the globe. And around the globe you have different cultural backgrounds everywhere. Having that kind of a diverse force can only increase your operational capability."
Even though I've noticed several post of yours "discussing" blacks and service, I hope you don't have an agenda that you are pushing, unless you hope to have more minorities join the ranks of these units. I know this is the internet, and people claim to be things that they are not, but let's just say I have personally been involved, in some capacity, with a drive to recruit more minorities. So I do have an agenda. "We may not have come here on the same ship, but we're definitely in the same boat".
If anyone needs a black Marine Corps "shooter" to look up to, try Buck Doyle.
Buck Doyle served over 21 years in the US Marine Corps, including 17 years and multiple combat tours with Special Operations units. As a Reconnaissance Marine attached to 1st Force Recon, 1st Recon BN, and MARSOC units, Doyle served as Team Leader, Platoon Sergeant, and Chief Instructor at Special Missions Training Branch. He has current, extensive experience in hostile fire/combat zones in the Middle East, Africa, and Asia. Doyle retired from the Marine Corps a Master Sergeant with multiple awards, including the Bronze Star (with Valor), which he received for dragging one of his team mates to safety after that Marine was hit by an enemy sniper. While doing so Buck was shot twice himself, one round almost severing his arm and resulting in the loss of 1.5" of arm bone.If you ever get the chance, check out his Scoped Carbine Class in Utah. 1200 yards with a 5.56(77 grain)!
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Thanks for the info, actually I do have an agenda, it is to put a spotlight on this and get blacks to motivation levels to serve at the highest level, watching Cuba Gooding as a cook on a ,50 in pearl Harbor makes me angry they weren't event alowed to en list infantry back then.
We haveuch work to do, I have had great teammates in my field, trained ,and shot with very competent blacks, but it bothers me.
I hope I've been clear why seviral of my posts shed light on this matter. BTW green berets...hats off, but they aren't delta, or seals.
...and as this MLK holiday is Monday, it's also a point of contention I have, since my black hero since I was in grade school 6th grade was not MLK, Frederick Douglass, or Jake Robinson...but Harriet Tubman.
Talk about a real hero, who had the resolve to do what she did.
For the record I am not black (don't use African-American) as I wouldnt use (South-American American) or (European American), it's all p.c. bovine scatology.
Cut the fat, get to the issue call things what they are in spite of trying to not offend people and your true colors will shine.
...and as this MLK holiday is Monday, it's also a point of contention I have, since my black hero since I was in grade school 6th grade was not MLK, Frederick Douglass, or Jake Robinson...but Harriet Tubman.All where products of their time, and environment.
Talk about a real hero, who had the resolve to do what she did.
For the record I am not black (don't use African-American) as I wouldn't use (South-American American) or (European American), it's all p.c. bovine scatology.Would you use Asian American, or Native American? Why use "South-American American, when you know what specific country they come from? They know their exact cultural heritage, and can use it.
I am Black, and usually refer to myself as such, but I have no problem with people calling themselves whatever THEY choose as long as it is an official designation. For instance, my wife is Korean American.
But seriously, who should choose such things. After all, if black Americans knew what countries or tribes in Africa they descended from, they use that for ethnic identification, like Italian American, Irish American, South African American, etc.. Even still, as someone that has had extensive DNA test run, it'll probably be several tribes like me. Along with my Irish, Scottish, English, Spanish, Puerto Rican, and Native American parts.
Cut the fat, get to the issue call things what they are in spite of trying to not offend people and your true colors will shine.The term "African American" has been used and published as far back as 1782, as verified by Mr. Fred Shapiro, librarian at Yale Law School, editor of “The Yale Book of Quotations,” and longtime contributor to the Oxford English Dictionary.
Again though I'm old enough to remember the terms colored and Negro as well. Being the first black/Negro/African American to integrate the private school I had scholarship(academic) to, there were a whole lot of other terms I was introduced to as well.
The modern usage of African American came from a poem by the name of "I Can" back in the mid 80s. The poem was written by Johnny Duncan, and it appeared in The 1987 Black History Calendar, and all subsequent editions through 1993.
While taking infantry training at Ft. Benning, Georgia, Duncan came across an anonymous sign that read: "The last 4 letters of American spell I Can." Duncan set out to compose a poem based on that slogan. In the midst writing, he realized that the last four letter of African also spelled "i can." So in line twenty-five of the poem, Duncan wrote, The last 4 letter of my heritage and my creed spell "i can", heritage being Afr-i-can and creed being Amer-i-can. Jesse Jackson saw a copy of the poem in 1989 Black History Calendar that Duncan sent to Mrs Coretta King. Jackson then collaborated with Ramona Edelin and others and made the push to use the term Afr-i-can Amer-i-can. The rest is Afr-i-can Amer-i-can History!
African American is about ethnicity, not race. It tells a certain group, but not all, how we got here. Almost all Black Americans are mixed. American blacks are descended from West African populations, with some white and aboriginal-American admixture. The overall average of non-African admixture is 20-25 percent. The admixture distribution is nonlinear, though: “It seems that around 10 percent of the African American population is more than half European in
ancestry.”
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/05/genetic-variation-among-african-americans/#.UL8gMaxrOSo
http://www.eurweb.com/2010/05/latest-genetic-study-says-african-americans-are-22-percent-white/
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"African American" is a specific ethnicity. It's not about being "PC". It's just that it is often misused to describe any black person, regardless of where they're actually from (i.e. Idris Elba would not be African American).
share"African American" is a specific ethnicity. It's not about being "PC". It's just that it is often misused to describe any black person, regardless of where they're actually from (i.e. Idris Elba would not be African American).You are 100% correct. share
Thanks for the info, actually I do have an agenda, it is to put a spotlight on this and get blacks to motivation levels to serve at the highest level, watching Cuba Gooding as a cook on a ,50 in pearl Harbor makes me angry they weren't event alowed to en list infantry back then.Do you think your method is coming off like that?
We haveuch work to do, I have had great teammates in my field, trained ,and shot with very competent blacks, but it bothers me.Mine has been similar, except I was usually the only black guy on my team, or at particular schools. That's why I made it a point to reach out to others to see what the common denominator was.
I hope I've been clear why seviral of my posts shed light on this matter. BTW green berets...hats off, but they aren't delta, or seals.That was in responce to:
But just so you know our special forces elite is made up of 80% WhiteboysI know for a fact that the Teams suffer more from a diversity issue because of the water component. Just not a lot of swimming going on in historically black neighborhoods. Not to mention the "black only pools", like my parents were subject to, that were few and far between. Like of access, and a fear of water.
You know, if you know, this is about how bad you want something, plain and simple. I'm sure you know A.J. James from the "Act of Valor" movie. He was the smaller black SEAL. He couldn't swim at all, but he wanted bad enough to dedicate 2 years to preparing himself for BUD’s. That is not just dedication, but that is DRIVE. Of course putting him, and Sonny in that movie was a drive to appeal to more blacks. Or Rob Roy on "Deadliest Warrior", Jake on "Top Shot", and even David Goggins the Navy SEAL and former USAF Tactical Air Control Party member is the big ultramarathon, ultra-distance runner, and triathlete. Goggins is the only member in the U.S. Armed Forces to complete SEAL training, U.S. Army Ranger School and Air Force Tactical Air Controller training. He also served as the bodyguard for Iraqi Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari. Last I heard, he's still active duty, payed by the Navy to help recruit. He also holds the world pull-up record.
This is a guy that grew up suffering from Asthma, Sickle cell trait, psychological and physical abuse during childhood, and obesity. When he decided he want to become a SEAL, he was all drive. Oh yeah, he discovered he had a congenital heart defect that he had to have surgery to repair 7 years ago.
Special shout out to Kevin Houston, the black DEVGRU SEAL that was one of 30 American warriors that died when their helicopter was shot down in Afghanistan, the single largest loss of American life in the 10-year-old war.
As for "Delta", I've only come across three actual active black members, but again, they put the "quiet" in quiet professional. Of course every old timer in the community knows Charlie Beckwith(founder of Delta), born and raised in the South, was a viral racist, and it is well known that he actively keep blacks out of the Unit. From his on mouth, he designed the strenuous swim test for Delta "to keep the G_ddamn niqqers out". An unrepentant racist Beckwith believed blacks made bad, lazy soldiers and didn't want them in the Unit. Needless to say, he left a legacy.
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Dude I read this on the other post you wrote! I don't know how my posts come off, I do know racists and at times I've just stayed quiet when jokes went on behind guys backs, and I carry some of it and have sinned by silence at times..and spoke out as I matured. My father in law is black(married out of love), and we debate about race alot since my blond haired boy calls him papa in public...we're talking Burbank CA and people go berserk 2017.
Am I shocked...no. why, because I was taught to judge a person by the content of his character and not the color of his skin"MLK
All children are born free of racism, it's the parent to do his job to look every man as his equal whether he is a gardener or CEO, janitor or judge...
I would call someone from Korea...korean, and the only group deserving of simply "American"...is the Indian.
I don't get "verically-challenged" I get short, it's little people right?
All in all we came from one place...Africa, and that is fact our decendent are black. Just don't tell my Whiteboy friends in east Texas :)
I just read your other post on the other thread. Trust me, we are good. I had the wrong impression. I'm sure we're on the same side on a lot of issues. Unfortunately you'll be called a racist, and I'll be called an Uncle Tom. It's the world we live in....
So true. HUA your last sir and thank you
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