What was that nonsense Bob was telling that weekend warrior dentist (okay, orthodontist lol)? I've seen horrific photos taken on Vietnamese battlefields that show the sort of damage that .223 ammo is capable of.
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Completely false...you can kill with a .22 caliber marlin 60 with well placed rpund.
Show is joke, lexicon is all wrong, ryan philippe looks more at home on the ice capedes on broadway.
He's talking about a 55 gram round. That's a centerfire .22 varmint round. Of course you can kill most things with a perfect shot but we're talking about small moving animals from longer distances. I typically shoot MK262 77gr rounds out of a 1:7.7 Kreiger...I can ping plates all day at 600yds but would never attempt a shot at anything bigger than a coyote. Nothing worse than having an animal moving, small flinch, full value wind, etc.. and you've now put a bullet in the deer's guts. Not even worth the effort.
Out in South Dakota shooting prairie dogs? Sure.
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Show is joke, lexicon is all wrong
Let's give it a shot.. a .223 can kill, although milspec is .556, with m4 or ar-15 civ. You can shoot .223 out of rifle, but not chambered .223 for a .556 milspec nato round 55 grain.
I have an m24 rem 700, leupold mark 4 4.5x40mm milspec doped out to 300 yards. Dope adjust is taped to stock (hs precision ) the round 308 is a anti personell round and I have groups at 800 yards in the red..which is expected from a proficient long distance shooter.
The correalis effect or rotation of earth comes into play at 1500+ yards, and you don't use laser bores sight on .338 lapua magnum rifle inside the tool shed, you don't use an adjustable wrench on your rings, you don't throw stupid facts about .223 round out there because it sounds cool.
As I said a well placed .22 is currently in use in our military for special operations where a higher velocity round from distance is not objective.
His "gun room" looks like a joke rifles hanging on walls like artwork near ocean? No reloading presses or armour wrench? Come on guy..you know this ain't a keyboard commando here, roll my own, like Varget and cci primers...have 20 years professional and 30 years shooting everything you can think of.
Gun nuts, all'v ya! Use a bow and arrow or a spear like real hunters/nature lovers. Like Bob Lee said, give the animal a fighting chance.
Fighting a religious war is like fighting over whose imaginary friend is better.
Bow and arrow is illegal in most countries, not because it is a "fair fight" but because it has a much higher chance to just wound the animal and let it run away and suffer unnecessary - which was very close to the point Bob Lee was making about the .223 - it is a varmint round, too small to be reliable in a wolf hunt.
And before someone makes the point "it's good enough for humans"- humans are a lot less tougher than wild animals.
I agree with swordsaint 100%
share.223 sounds too small to be dangerous, right? It's less than 1.
shareI'm a target shooter these days and still shoot .223 caliber and 5.56mm (virtually same) and it is a very accurate round in weights from 40 grains to 77 grains.
Now, 47 years ago I was a combat Marine in Vietnam and can first-hand assure you that a .223/5.56 round of 55 grains in weight is exceptionally deadly when fired from an M-16.
Until a decade or so ago the military used that same Vietnam full metal jacket bullet. Now days they still use virtually the same rifle design but upped the bullet weight to 62 grains.
Snipers in WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam and since have used bigger, heavier ,30 caliber (7.62mm) bullets in the weight range of 150 to 175 grains. Thus Swagger, being a sniper, would be biased toward the larger calibers and would poke fun at a .223. But he sure would respect it if it were being fired at him.
The ultimate in long range shooting by snipers today falls among the venerable 50-caliber bolt action marvels and their little brother, the .338 Lapua.