The ending...
Is it basically implied that Hitler is going to lead Germany again into what it once was back in WW2?
Is it basically implied that Hitler is going to lead Germany again into what it once was back in WW2?
Not exactly into what it once was. Even he wouldn't be able to get away with concentration camps and gas chambers in modern times. However, the very ending showing people acting on their own fears and ignorance ending with Hilter saying "I can work with this." shows that he'll eventually get himself back on top and in charge.
Hitler really would have loved television as a tool and what he could do with the internet probably would have made him cry.
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Except that jews didn't do 1% of what muslims are doing right now in Europe which cause legitimate fear and problems.
shareJews didn't cause the problems that the current Muslim invasion is causing, such as mass sexual assault of women, attempting to colonise whole areas through sheer numbers and enforce sharia law, become a huge drain on the welfare state, and the other enormous problems caused by Muslims.
However, Jews did cause other problems, related to financial usury, media control, etc. And they did (and still do) encourage third world immigration into western countries to undermine our homogeneity.
Basically blue collar crime v white collar crime.
Did jews harass german women en masse on a new years eve like muslims did last year? Did jews form gangs that rape local european women upon arriving on the continent?
Your comparison makes no sense. Jews were mostly peaceful. Most people want the recent muslim immigrants out of Europe immediately because they are disrupting social harmony and bringing in instability, and generally refuse to integrate.
The problem is not even immigration in general, it is only immigrants from certain muslim countries. Asian or south american immigrants do not pose these problems.
I just want to say when youre arguing the modern hitler in the satirical movie is correct you know you've jumped the shark. There were some jews who did bad things, there are muslims who do bad things, blacks, mexicans, what have you, that doesnt justify wholescale racism, bigotry, and genocide. Btw most "muslim countries" are in Asia my geographically challenged friend
shareThe Middle East is not usually referred to as 'asia'. Sure, Turkey is technically at least 50% in asia as well, but few people would refer to Turkey as an asian country.
In general usage asian usually refers to East Asian or South Asian countries like China, South Korea, Japan, Vietnam which have a very distinct culture (and which is also the highest earning income bracket in the United States if going by reported ethnicity).
If I say I had a meeting with two asians, very few if any people in the world would think I had dinner with a Kuwaiti and Turkish national.
Germans in general are not opposed to immigration, they are opposed to immigration from middle-eastern countries. Read up on the Cologne harassment of women in December 2015. We are talking about hundreds if not thousands of muslims ganged up to harass, rape and sexually abuse women during a traditionally festive and peaceful time of the year. Jews did not do anything even remotely comparable anywhere in the world.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/06/world/europe/coordinated-attacks-on-women-in-cologne-were-unprecedented-germany-says.html
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35231046
I dare you, show me any single other demographic in the world that goes to a foreign country and starts sexually abusing the local women simultaneously en masse during a public holiday. Not one or two individuals; Hundreds acting in unison.
There were some jews who did bad things, there are muslims who do bad things, blacks, mexicans, what have you, that doesnt justify wholescale racism, bigotry, and genocide.
except that "Muslims" are not a race, they're adherents to a religion that promotes hatred, rape, and pedophilia among other things. Islam should have no place in Western society.
shareAll that is implied is that Hitler will stay the course and try to influence and egg on the nationalistic/populist/anti-immigrant sentiment flaring up in Europe. There's no hard implication that he will actually lead Germany again--(and if he did, we might assume a "kinder, gentler" more 21st century Hitler).
The point is simply that the conditions and sentiments in Germany today are strikingly similar to what they were like in the post-WWI/Weimar era that led to Hitler's rise. Nationalistic feelings, anti-immigrant, anti-foreigner, a feeling that Germany is being saddled with unfair financial responsibilities (Versailles Treaty, bailing out Greece).
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first of all, i just finished watching the movie and i absolutely loved it.
probably the best movie ive seen this year despite being older.
however, i dont understand some of the ending.
so the guy is commited to an asylum. but this begs the question, why? sure, he just strated acting crazy after finding out our fuhrer IS our fuhrer. nobody bothered to ask him why the sudden change in attitude? or, did he not tell anyone to watch the same video he saw?.
i think the movie is perfect, but that bit really bothered me. in an age where everything is recorded by anyone, why would anyone not try to corroborate that?
This was such a huge problem for me. I was thrilled with the majority of the movie, but that part seemed like the laziest writing ever. I know they wanted to create a "conspiracy theorist" out of the journalist guy, but there's ways to do that while still staying within the reality bounds that have been established by the rest of the film.
A guy getting literally chased down by hospital employees for a single tantrum in patient room, and subsequently being stuck in a padded cell with a straight jacket, is just ridiculous.
I'm torn on whether the filmmakers were casting their spotlight on German culture specifically or whether they are making a larger sociological point on human nature as a whole.
I think a lot of postwar explanation of Nazism as a phenomenon was focused on a particular "German" weakness for Nazi ideology, as if there was something endemic to German identity and culture that was prone to authoritarianism and dictatorship. My sense is these ideas have been mostly debunked as being stereotypical and prejudicial (as much as saying Jews are prone to thriftiness or calling Italians short-tempered).
I'm not German literate enough to follow these kinds of sociological debates within Germany, but my sense is that there are those in Germany who believe that Nazism is an ever-present specter, like the nervous tics of an ex-smoker who reflexively reaches for cigarettes even though they don't smoke, needing constant reinforcement so as to not give in to the impulse to start smoking.
That was my take on the final "scene" in film-within-a-film that took place on top of the building. Hitler said something like "You can't get rid of me, I'm always with you" and that would definitely play into the idea that Nazism is some sort of sociological impulse within German culture, an instinct beneath the surface that needs active suppression to resist.
There were several mentions in the film by characters dismissive of this idea and that it was no longer necessary to brow-beat themselves over their past.
Whether the "new" Hitler takes over the Germany in the film remains to be seen, the filmmakers certainly believe its a threat by their placement of all the anti-immigrant news footage at the end, which I found to be a bit of ham-fisted ideology in a movie that was much more effective when it used comedy to make its point.
I thought this movie was great, it was well done and it showed us hypothetically how Hitler can rise to power again in modern times by the use of social media.
Even tho this movie might be labeled as a "comedy". It hits a lot of real political issues that Germany is facing but also, Europe itself and other Countries like Canada (my home country) are facing with the abundance of muslim immigrants entering these countries. There is a backlash against muslims in these countries for a lot of reasons which I'm not gonna delve into as we can talk about that all day.
This movie has so much depth and substance when you sit down and think about it, what if Hitler did come back, what would he do?. Hitler couldn't get away with concentration camps again but deportation?. yes!. I mean look at Donald Trump and the stuff he says about deporting all illegals and muslims and closing the borders to muslim immigrants and he gets away with it.
To answer your question, yes for me at least, it is implied that Hitler gains power once again and rids Germany of muslim immigrants but his goal is noted/implied is rid of all muslims from all of Europe which would garner huge from people as there already is a huge group of people opposed to muslims. This does not mean war with other countries or a takeover like in WW2 but making a movement, getting regular folks in other countries to riot to force a change in their homeland. This is how I took it. I might have to watch it again to see if I would change my thought on that though.
There's just so much to talk about regarding this film whether it be about a certain scene to political issues to even the whole film itself.
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