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Competent but not great.

posted 6 years ago by Heisenberg (6730)
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Ok these days we have to celebrate that a movie is not crap, especially one with so much money behind it.
This movie was very polite, it wrapped up the story nicely and tried to insult our intelligence as little as possible (even with the ultra dull time travel plot).
With so many characters it's easy to keep the audience entertained, but it's also easy to lose track. This movie is efficient in keeping both in check.
That's it, doesn't do anything else, it won't blow your mind in any possible way, far from it.

I guess we cannot expect every sequel to be terminator 2, but I would have enjoyed some risk taking from this movie with its action, visuals, story or directing, rather than just tiding up the place.
It's a nice Ford Focus movie for ya, nothing wrong with that, but what's the point of it other than money?

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[–] ATG6 (3000) 6 years ago

It was appropriately epic and had a good time heist smaller scale storyline. But it took forever to set things up, and even longer to wind them down. Could have been cut down to 2:30 and had the same exact story. I did think Infinity War was better though.

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[–] Heisenberg (6730) 6 years ago

Yes, but it just safely delivered the expected epic formula, without adding anything new.
Actually, it had to rely on a stupid plot device that didn't even make much sense (time travel keeping everything the same).
I mean, they needed to wrap these stories up. Infinity War was about thanos collecting the stones vs avengers trying to stop him. This one was about them getting the stones back. Nothing really clever that will be remembered 2 years from now.
I wish they had something amazing in store for us other than a checklist of "stories we need to wrap up in this film".

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[–] Wint3rFir3 (7188) 6 years ago

I agree that it was competent and it was certainly enjoyable, but I can't agree that it didn't try to insult our intelligence a lot.

For example, Why was it necessary for more than one person to go back in time? Ant-Man could've gotten everything on his own. Because it's being an inclusive movie more than it's trying to be a good story. Also, why were these specific members of the Avengers included, but not others? Same reason - to make sure the fan favourites get tie-ups. Even the deaths of certain main characters don't really make any sense. There are so few of them that the threat doesn't feel that big, but apparently the people who died just weren't good enough to survive because...movie reasons, not story reasons.

Still, I can't say I wasn't entertained.

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[–] Heisenberg (6730) 6 years ago

Your arguments agree with my point. I said try, didn't mean it succeded:-)
To me the biggest stupid happening is: there is one waay strongest avenger (captain marvel...). She should have been in charge of something there (if not of everything, like you pointed out). But she was in charge of nothing. Why? Because she was busy with something else.
Must have been that new haircut that Ratchet:-) pointed out, otherwise I don't understand what could she have more important to do than saving the universe.

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[–] Wint3rFir3 (7188) 6 years ago

Literally what I was thinking the whole entire time watching movie. Why don't they just call in Captain Marvel and have her doing everything? Oh, because we need the send off instead of just to do something well.

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[–] Heisenberg (6730) 6 years ago

Yeah, and there are too many contrivancies like that one.

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[–] actionkamen (23176) 6 years ago

It done new things never before attempted in any other superhero movies.

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[–] Heisenberg (6730) 6 years ago

I'm not sure I understand what you mean.

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[–] RobPatelli (188) 6 years ago

Wow. I saw this just yesterday. My reaction is opposite. It was a great movie and I didn't even feel its lenght. In fact, at the end, my thought was oh, it's ovar and 3 hours had gone by just like that. In fact, I could do with a longer version of the movie myself.

What else could a movie with so many characters do differently when it has to tie up lose ends? I thought it was just right. Infinity War and Endgame - totally different movies. Loved them both.

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[–] Heisenberg (6730) 6 years ago

I didn't feel its lenght either! It being watchable is part of its competent execution.
What else could it have done instead? Something new and creative, not obvious.
I mean, looking at it objectivelly, how would you characterize the plot other than "avengers go back in time to unite the infinity stones and defeat Thanos".
That doesn't sound like a great movie to me. As a matter of facts I didn't feel like I watched anything great afterwards, it felt like watching the last episode of Friends.
And everything else is by the numbers (direction, fx, action, acting).
What did you find great about it, other than "I didn't feel its lenght"?

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