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Screen Rant is speculating that Avengers 4 will basically be The Butterfly Effect (spoilers?)

posted 6 years ago by Frogarama (12942)
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Traveling back in time through one's own memories, basically.

https://screenrant.com/avengers-4-theory-time-travel-memories/2/

This article mentions the above, but shows a bit more:
https://www.inverse.com/article/47525-avengers-4-spoilers-theory-antman-wasp-time-travel

Oh and I don't think anything can be "spoilers" for this movie considering the first person in the cast list is a spoiler, and the full cast list includes so many other "dead" Marvel characters that were culled by Thanos.

Plus, we all know none of those are staying dead.

[–] Otter (24464) 6 years ago

I won't be satisfied unless every single one of the thirty or forty main characters (or fifteen-twenty surviving main characters) are all traveling through time at once, and getting in each other's way.

It's got to be a TEAM EFFORT!

[–] Frogarama (12942) 6 years ago

I won't be satisfied until they defeat all evil, and then have to look for lesser emergencies.

*calls up the Avengers*

Quick, my wife and I want to go out at night, but our regular sitter is sick. We need help.

Captain America: We'll be right there.

Title card: "AVENGERS IN BABYSITTING"

I am definitely not the first to think of this: https://officiallydiva.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/avengers-in-babysitting.jpg

=)

[–] Shooter (112) 6 years ago

Love the reference you had there. That movie even has Thor in it.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

Some kind of time travel or something is going to happen, obviously.

It has to. They killed off half the marvel universe for crying out loud.

[–] Frogarama (12942) 6 years ago

The main speculation I saw before was that the ones taken were in the Soul stone, and could be restored.

The other I read was that Adam Warlock would get the gauntlet and stones from Thanos, and I assume from there, Adam might lose them to Captain Marvel.

Since Warlock was introduced at the end of GOTG2, he should still appear here at this finale of phase 1.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

That would make sense too.

My mind was on time travel because that's how Doctor Strange defeated whats his name at the end of his movie.

[–] NorrinRad (5470) 6 years ago

Doctor Strange defeated whats his name at the end of his movie.

Technically that was a "Time Loop" not Time Travel. As a Timeless entity Dormammu had no concept of time thus the endlessly repeating event was totally foreign to him and something he could neither control nor stop. It was like trying to understand the number of points on a circle which is infinite.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

Time loop is a form of time travel.

[–] NorrinRad (5470) 6 years ago

No.

It isn't.

If you are in a loop or on a loop you are neither going forward nor backwards, there is no beginning and no end. Thus the word loop. You travel the loop but you are stuck going nowhere.

Time is still. Thus neither Strange nor Dr. Dormmamu would ever grow old as neither is traveling through time.

No time passes in a time loop. Time Travel:

NOUN
(in science fiction) the action of traveling through time into the past or the future.

[–] AckbartheHutt (1370) 6 years ago

dont forget about the mobius loop.

[–] Frogarama (12942) 6 years ago

And Strange giving up the Time stone also distracts from the notion that the Avengers will eventually use time travel to defeat Thanos.

I assume that what Strange saw when he looked at possibilities was that if he didn't give up the stone, Thanos would kill all the Avengers until Strange was the only one left, if he even survived that long.

The only way to stop Thanos from coming after them was to let him win, so that there would be enough Avengers left over to reverse what he'd done.

[–] FilmBuff (7355) 6 years ago

I'd be surprised if the resolution is as simple as "go back in time and do it better the next time." I don't doubt that time travel, or at the very least communication with those in the past, will play a part, it would be a fairly rudimentary film if it's as simple as the above speculation makes it out to be.

[–] Frogarama (12942) 6 years ago

I think it'll be more like going back in time and turning something more powerful than Thanos against him, to kill him before he ever gets ahead.

[–] TandyMan (11190) 6 years ago

They gotta keep it kind of simple. This has to be a broad concept film that global audiences and kids can understand and follow. Definitely needs to more Back to the Future than Doctor Who.

[–] FilmBuff (7355) 6 years ago

They certainly didn't keep Infinity War simple or kid-friendly. Thanos gruesomely murdered someone in the opening scene of the film, and later he threw his own daughter to her death. We saw limbs severed, aliens killed in the vacuum of space, and Vision's brain ripped to shreds, all punctuated by the horrifying disintegration of most of the stars of the film. Interspersed with all of that we had introspection and deep analysis of the psyche of a would-be mass murderer. All of that culminated with a final scene of the villain victorious, and trillions of lives snuffed out in an instant.

I'm pretty sure Marvel sees no need to keep things light and simple, for kids.

And I'll add-- one of the chief reasons for Marvel's success has been their consistent willingness to make sophisticated films aimed at grownups.

[–] billbrown7071 (3195) 6 years ago

Theres a Leaked Description of The Trailer going around(which may or may not be true, sounds true)

and In it, it disproves this theory....

They are definitely using Ant-Man and The quantum realm to time travel

[–] Moonglum9 (11320) 6 years ago

That seems awful complicated. Why don't they just sling-shot around the sun to time travel? We already know that works.

[–] DarthRoger (867) 6 years ago

Hmmm.... I don't know, I want to give the story writers for Marvel more credit. Doing a time travel twist is okay as long as they don't replicate something already done in other movies.

[–] DarthRoger (867) 6 years ago

Interesting article.

My own belief is that it will have something to do with the equipment that Hank Pym invented to travel in the quantum realm. I get the impression from the new trailer that Scott Lang gets out of the quantum realm and makes his way to Avengers HQ, where he shares what he's discovered with the remnant Avengers team. I also think that by this time, Captain Marvel has arrived back to Earth but can do nothing much to help, until she meets up with the remaining Avengers and Scott Lang. Once that happens, they are able to use Bruce Banner's scientific mind to figure out a way to use Hank Pym's quantum device to travel back and save everyone.

Okay, that's just a working theory right now but it's got some legs.

[–] AP (5291) 6 years ago

Yeah, in the stinger for Ant-Man & Wasp, they had a Qantum Realm device in the back of his van and in the trailer, we can see his van behind Scott. With Janet warning him about time-portals, it seems as though they're going to use that tech one way or another.

[–] Volley (3433) 6 years ago

I think to avoid nullifying the events of the epic Infinity War, some of those lost will not be coming back...

Yet.