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Are all the women in this series stupid?

posted 9 years ago by delalluvia
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Ellie - Imagine, an alien is in your home. Your planet. He has all the answers to the universe, can do miraculous feats of healing, cleaning the environment, stopping violence. Their technology is so way above ours that they appear to be gods. You can talk to this creature and what wondering, thoughtful questions do you ask..?

None. You're too busy being jealous of dead girlfriends, and blubbering about not being able to get pregnant, so you can blither to babies and crawl in the dirt with them. So upset are you that you pull a f vking gun on the alien, just to, you know, show how mature and rational you are and what a good mother you'd make.

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Rachel - Your boyfriend/co-worker has an epiphany about where these miraculous aliens come from. Do you question him on how he came to that conclusion? Do you ask him to show you his thought processes? No, you whine that he's using your favorite lipstick to write with and he's just ruining it! Then he does find out what system and planet the Overlords are from. Do you look at the planet? Confirm his theory? Try to determine the atmosphere on the planet and what sort of life it could support? No, you don't even bother to look, because his lips need kissing.

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Amy - Mombie supreme. She's immaculately impregnated and suddenly is nothing but a grinning chimp, uncaring and uninterested in anything outside her hormones and prego belly because that's the height of woman-ness achievement.

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Peretta - unstable psycho chick. She's such a woman of faith and a follower of Jesus the Prince of Peace that of course, murder is an option when her delusions about someone she doesn't even know take hold.

Did anyone actually read the book? Are there any women characters in it? Are they this stupid?

"Can you keep a secret? Can you know something and never speak of it again?"

[–] Naldoman 9 years ago

You forgot the pistol-packin'-kidnap-van'n-sub-terranean-pro-Terran-pot-stirrer...

Oh, and the drug-usin'-mini-skirt-wearin'-mom.

Then again, the male characters aren't too sharp, either.

[–] delalluvia 9 years ago

You forgot the pistol-packin'-kidnap-van'n-sub-terranean-pro-Terran-pot-stirrer...

Oh, and the drug-usin'-mini-skirt-wearin'-mom.

Then again, the male characters aren't too sharp, either.

Yup. Every single woman character is a dummy. Only the men do any thinking in this series. The women are there just to emote, cause trouble or be baby machines.

Yeah, Ricky isn't any Rhodes Scholar either. He is taken up into space/another dimension with a god-like extraterrestrial and...is immediately distracted from the wonders of the universe by the hotel room. 

"Can you keep a secret? Can you know something and never speak of it again?"

[–] The_paranoid_android 9 years ago

Yup. Every single woman character is a dummy. Only the men do any thinking in this series. The women are there just to emote, cause trouble or be baby machines.

Oh, so Christopher Nolan must have wrote this mini-series.

In our struggle to survive the present we push the future further away.

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[–] jpfurlong79 9 years ago

None of this garbage is in the book. As a longtime fan of the novel, it's been very frustrating watching this miniseries. :-/ I'm with you 100%.

[–] ant-mac 9 years ago

The more I read about this mini-series, the more depressed I get.

I've been a fan of Arthur C Clarke for nearly 40 years and CE is right up there with the Rama cycle for me. But what's the point of making a mini-series from a novel if you're just going to ignore the novel anyway...

Bloody idiots.

ant-mac

[–] VeritasEst 9 years ago

Amen to that. I guess the screenwriters thought they could do a better job with Arthur C. Clarke than Arthur C. Clarke.

They were sorely mistaken.

[–] fictionalman 9 years ago

I read this book a long time ago and forgot much.I do remember that some events occurred over a very long time.The mini-series compressed allot.Please tell me what was changed?
That's just my two cents.

[–] la di da 9 years ago

I came on here just to state the same thing.

Aliens come to earth and women's intelligence goes to the dark ages.

We are the music makers...we are the dreamer of dreams.Willy Wonka

[–] nyarlath 9 years ago

Please remember that this miniseries is a commercial product. Its target audience is the petite bourgeois lower middle class conservative viewer. When you look at it that way the stupid 'feminine' woman trope makes perfect sense.

[–] wlbennett 9 years ago

The problem with your condescending assertion is the target audience you describe is religious and religion does not come off well in Childhood's End. Take another shot at a wild guess or better yet familiarize yourself with Clarke's work.

Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth.

[–] nyarlath 9 years ago

your condescending assertion is the target audience you describe is religious

Sorry Charlie, you backed the wrong horse. I said nothing about religion. There are lots of atheist ignoramuses in the tea bag movement. Actually deep religious conviction is often a proletarian addiction.

"Religion is the opiate of the masses."
K. Marx

"Opiate is the religion of the masses."
T. Leary

[–] srb-3 9 years ago

Did anyone actually read the book?

I have. This year.

Are there any women characters in it?

Yes.

Are they this stupid?

Yes. All the women are total airheads. The women you describe actually sound *smarter* than the women from the book.

[–] delalluvia 9 years ago

Are they this stupid?

Yes. All the women are total airheads. The women you describe actually sound *smarter* than the women from the book.

Sad. Well, Mr. Clarke may have been a scientific visionary, but he was a man and a man of his time.

"Can you keep a secret? Can you know something and never speak of it again?"

[–] srb-3 9 years ago

Sad. Well, Mr. Clarke may have been a scientific visionary, but he was a man and a man of his time.

Yup.

[–] greyson-forkturner 9 years ago

Q: Are all the women in this series stupid?
A: Yes.

I've read the book and all the characters are smarter than is this mass of meh, where everyone seems to hold a bacelor's in stupidity. Clarke wrote a good story, but character development wasn't his forte. Syfy did even worse - yay Siphi!

[–] wlbennett 9 years ago

The book was written in 1953. Women were not usually given major roles in science fiction during that era. They were generally relegated to support roles and even those that were acknowledged to be experts in their fields were expected to get the coffee while the men solved the problems.

Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun, the moon, and the truth.

[–] Mehki_Girl 9 years ago

You pretty much nailed it.

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