A total waste of time. The entire plot was ludicrous. Had the aliens not stepped in we would have eventually destroyed ourselves, so the aliens saved us from our own self destruction by destroying us. Having rendered everyone sterile after we had learned under duress to live together, ban war and injustice then taking the children to become a part of the overseer mind the aliens simply left us to our own devices to do as we wished and inside 90 years everyone was dead. Whereupon the last remaining child Jenifer then destroys the last man alive and the earth. All the Alien can think of saying is, "It is done." What a crock of crap.
Looks like you didn't actually watch the miniseries.
Yes, humanity was potentially on the verge of destroying itself -- but the Overlords, at the behest of the Overmind, interceded and gave us the time and the opportunity to evolve into something BETTER. The ape-descended Homo sapiens eventually disappeared, but not before giving birth to a higher form of human which joined the Overmind.
Maybe you should just go watch something written for less intelligent people.
Oh I wasted six hours on this idiot movie. I saw aliens looking like devils, a glowing cloud as a stand in for the overseer and children giving the two handed NAZI salute as they floated up into the sky.
Tell me, if the aliens were so evolved, how come they couldn't help every earth person evolve and if they were so intelligent why did they screw up the solar system by destroying one of it's planets?
It was a book, written 62 years ago and taken by a modern Hollywood then turned into a stupid movie to entertain even dumber people.
To me, when you step back and look at it, the point made (which is a very clinical scientific way of looking at things) was to show that life/death/the universe/existence itself isn't a merciful or benevolent place or process. We may wish it were so, but it is not so. It just is what it is. Like nature. Everything that ever was or will be in the universe has its time and then it ends. Nothing sticks around forever, nothing can be saved from ending when its time is over, because it may be magnificent or unique. Nothing could save civilizations, cultures, the dinosaurs or countless other species from eventually going extinct, nor prevent other planets, solar systems, galaxies from ending.
I agree. When I read this as a kid I took it to be a statement that no civilization can ever be permanent, and each has its limits of evolution, even the overlords had a limit to their development. I also took from it that higher evolution may not always be desirable, but is unavoidable nonetheless.
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Backseat Producers can't simply enjoy movies. They nitpick & complain about every imperfection.
The movie is missing some points from the book, and it is really unfortunate that they did this. A lot of people are mistaken about plot points because of how the story was presented. The aliens did not do anything to impact the evolution of humanity. It happened naturally, they just made conditions on Earth easier. They didn't destroy the planet. The newly born collective "ate" the Earth for energy. The overlords couldn't effect the evolution because they didn't know how. They were stuck in a static state, which is why they help the overmind. They observe other races to try to understand how they can ascend. Aside from that the last point, most of these are explained in the film if you watch it.
I watched this with other people. I have read the book, they had not. They understood everything about the Overlords. Overmind, & humanity. It has a lot to do with people paying attention. Some seemed to tune out in the 2nd episode. I really didn't think it would be that difficult for people to comprehend, but unfortunately I am wrong.
"Maybe you should just go watch something written for less intelligent people."
Or maybe really dumb people like this pretentious nonsense with bad plotting cheap excuses to pretend there is a 'deeper meaning' behind it all. OP is right, this was a really stupid version of what is probably a smart book. Yes, sure there is a bit of dialogue that hints at stuff, but it is just a few crappy excuses to nuke a city and then 85 years after all kids are gone and Jennifer is stil around (WTF? WHY?) blow up the planet in some grand gesture. The ending was rushed and it turns out the whole thing was just another cheap B production of what could have been something as majestic as 2001.
Only really dumb people cannot grasp the fact others might have a different opinion on something.
To be fair you're comparing a mini series to a big movie. I don't think sci fi has the same budget. I did like the series, but I understand people who don't. But I went into it knowing it would be adapted from a very old book(yes, I read the book), thus trying to modernize it. Also I think they were trying to make something for everyone, instead of "true" sci fi fans. I feel that is why they changed Stormgren into a farmer vs the UN Secretary General to make him more sympathetic so to speak.
More like 4 in terms of run time. The Winds of War ran 12 hr, and still left out things in the book. It's the nature of adapting a novel, and the film makers' goals may not be the same as the novelist's. And some novels just can't be adapted as written, Dune (1984) being a prime example.
This mini-series clearly went over a lot of heads. Calling something you don't understand "stupid" doesn't make it so. Even if you're a Republican.
Childhood's End was surprisingly well-done and more faithful to Arthur C Clarke's classic novel. But they did cut some corners, and was lovingly made by people who read the book, FOR people who read the book. Which is one of the reasons it went completely over apachetears7's head. They omitted some important nuances about The Children, and their use of Earth's dying carcass in ascending to join the Overwind.
In doing so, they overestimated some of the audience's intelligence and left a little too much to limited imaginations such as apachetears7's.
If your point had left off at how it was made for people who had read the book, fine. But it didn't.
In doing so, they overestimated some of the audience's intelligence and left a little too much to limited imaginations such as apachetears7's.
Regardless of how intelligent people are, they can't be expected to fill in total omissions from the original material that were apparently left out just to save time. Especially if there were ample opportunities to include important story points by omitting things that were maybe pretty, but not integral to the story.
So there was no point in arguing that people who just hadn't read the book, lacked intelligence or imagination. Especially since that's the kind of thing that can lead to "fan fiction."
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Apachetears7...of course you are entitled to your views...one man's meat is another man's poison and all that...but I think you have missed quite a bit of the messages the series and the novel conveyed. You seem to have looked at the series superficially, expecting, perhaps an actioner movie with lots of bang, bang, smashe-em-ups and the like.
For a good close parallel to the book and the series go and watch (or re-watch) the 1951 version of "The Day the Earth Stood Still" starring Michael Rennie. It sort of says the same thing about earth and humanity in so much that any aliens out there may not really give a cracker about us unless we get star drive and start causing trouble out in the cosmos. Then maybe some aliens may want to help us grow out of our violent ways or some may want to "reduce your earth to a burned-out cinder" (I hope the Klaatu quote is right).
Personally I thought the entire series was extremely well made and a real turn around from the previous dross served up on the SyFy channel. It did compress a lot of the original book (which I recommend you read) but it had to or else we would have been looking at 20 or so two hour episodes.
There's so much going on in the series that I think you may have missed. The aliens look like the demons of our religions and mythology...but only because humanity, as it stepped up the evolutionary scales, gained more spiritual perceptions and had sort-of a collective premonition as to what was to come. Christians, for example, talk of the day of rapture...the dead rising from the graves...the children going to Jesus...the last judgement before the destruction of the physical earth. Perhaps Clarke was a devout Christian incognito...covered up by his science background.
But to me the most moving scene...one that apparently didn't move you at all...was the final ten minutes of the film. Milo elects to die (or maybe he doesn't die and his "spirit" lives on...who knows?) on earth and provide a guide to the Overlords as to what happens in the transition as they, themselves have been denied this from the Overmind. But Milo also stays behind to make a statement...and a beautiful one at that. "Here we are, all you other alien species...we were/ ARE a species called mankind and we climbed up from the evolutionary brine of the ocean to create art, music, culture and science. We rail at our passing but we know we are ascending to a new level of being". And then he asks Karellen for a favour...to allow one remnant of humanity to stand on in the great expanse of space where earth once hung majestic. And this was the kick in the guts moment for me because he asked for a piece of music to play on like a beacon of humanity in the great night. And what was that piece of music? "The Lark ASCENDING" by Ralph Vaughn Williams. Surely one of the most evocative and beautiful pieces of music humanity has ever produced. The Lark Ascending. Do you understand now?
Good point, this is entertainment after all, and how to thrill the audience without guns on a low budget? You're giving too much credit to society, and not just American.