I know this was from last week's episode but I just thought of it again. I'm thinking about when Nick was talking about going to London and Grace said she had never been out of Middleton. I know the point was maybe to say Grace hadn't traveled much but to make it sound like you had NEVER set foot out of your tiny town sounds ridiculous.
Good catch. Especially when Middleton is so close to Toronto, erm, I mean Chicago.😛
shareAnd as in previous posts she has no friends?? Just this stupid Nick guy who is getting very boring and predictable!
shareIt's not hard to believe someone has not been out of their town. I have met people in Pittsburgh that have not gone further than a couple of bus routes in their area. So it does happen.
sharePeople who are poor can't afford to travel, but Cassie is hardly poor. I realize she has a bed & breakfast and a shop to run, but even then she deserves a vacation. You would think that considering how much world traveling she has done, she would want to show her favorite places to her daughter. They could have gone to visit Tara in London, for example.
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My impression was that Grace meant that she had never lived anywhere else, since they were talking about living in another country. She's certainly been out of town.
Ironically, I think Grace would do better in London (and learn more) than Nick, after an initial adjustment period. It's not so much that he's spoiled, immature and lazy. Many a young American has happily partied and slept his or her way through a year overseas with all of those traits. It's that he's rigid. He likes things the way he wants and if he doesn't get what he wants, he throws a tantrum. A whole other culture isn't going to bend to your will that way, so it generally ends badly for the tantrum-thrower.
I'm not sure Nick even wants to go anymore so much as that he's too stubborn to admit he doesn't want to go.
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Martha probably has barbed wire around the town and guards on all the roads in and out.
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Maybe Cassie borrowed Regina's curse from Once Upon a Time and nobody can leave.
Ha, but seriously, I could swear I remember at least one scene a few episodes back where Grace was visiting the hospital with Sam where he's got his new job. And that's definitely out of town.
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Good catch. Especially when Middleton is so close to Toronto, erm, I mean Chicago.😛
You're right. It looks like New England. And it has the same New England Wasp-iness. But Hamilton aka Middleton is just outside of Toronto, near Niagara. But fictionally, it's in the US Central time zone, near Chicago. I still prefer to think of it as Canada though. It's hard to miss the Canadian street signage and accents, and there are no Chicago or midwestern accents at all, plus almost no mention of Chicago itself. To their credit, the Canadian actors are improving at speaking in an American accent though. If you watch the original Good Witch movies, they don't even try and hide their Canadian accents. I don't have anything against Canada, I'm just saying, it's hard to miss.
shareDefinitely has a New England feel. I'm from the Chicagoland area, and nothing around Chicago looks like this. The nearest thing would be some town in Wisconsin, but I'm still thinking MA, CT, or upstate NY
shareYeah, I always assumed it was New England or Upstate New York. Didn't they talk about Nick and his mom having come from NYC?
In terms of geography, while there's a marked difference between Vermont and Quebec south of Montreal, north and south of Niagara in Ontario look pretty similar. And the culture on both sides of the border is a lot more alike than it is with points further south (I grew up in northern Vermont). Depending on where the Canadian actor originates, the accents aren't *that* different, either.
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Yeah that's true. Nick and his parents are from New York and they drove from there.
If you watch some of the overhead shots of Middleton, you can see it's on a shore line (Lake Ontario). Presumably this is supposed to be Lake Michigan but it just doesn't look like that there. Maybe farther north in Wisconsin but not near Chicago.
I was thinking more like Maine, Massachusetts or Vermont, which all have lakes, ocean and shoreline.
Believe me, it's not half as ridiculous as Kingdom Hospital a few years back trying to pass off Inner Passage British Columbia as coastal Maine. Forget the totally different-looking geology in those areas--the sun wasn't even in the right place.
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I just meant that if it has to be Lake Michigan then it's more believable as Wisconsin than Illinois. Not that it looks like Wisconsin. It definitely has a more New England look.
But yeah. These kind of goofs are common. Another show I'm watching is filmed in New Zealand but is supposed to be the Bay Area peninsula. Nothing looks at all like North America. And like you said the sun was also in the wrong place. You could tell by the fact that it moved left instead of right. (It only moves left in the Southern Hemisphere.) A little like setting and rising in the wrong place like in your show.
Oh, Lord, watching something filmed in Australia, but set in New England, would be really strange.
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John mentioned in one episode that Middleton was a "Midwestern" state, which rules out any of the New England states. Someone also mentioned recently that they were "north of Chicago", which basically narrows it down to either Wisconsin or Michigan. Michigan just seems wrong, so I'm guessing Wisconsin.
shareI think it's supposed to be Illinois.
shareI must be really out of it, I thought it was supposed to be a Canadian town. Sure the people came from NY and may have lived in Chicago, but then chose to go to Canada.
shareThat's because in reality it's Hamilton, Ontario and the vast majority of the cast are Canadian.
shareRight, I knew that. However, as I said, I never got the feeling it was pretending to be in the States. I just thought that the doctor decided to move to Canada.
I like it either way, don't get me wrong. It was just a bit jolting to know that apparently it is supposed to be a small town in Wisconsin somewhere or the like...as that is not what Wisconsin looks like. It's certainly not what Michigan looks like UP or troll country. I have never been to NY, so it could look like that, but as others have stated, it looks more New Englandish.
I like it, it's quaint, and I know people that live in Hamilton...so I just thought it was a little village near Niagara, in Canada.
My best friend has never been off the East Coast of the USA, never been as far inland as Pennsylvania. At 41 years old. But that isn't the sad part. She lives on Long Island, has all her life, less than four miles from the home she grew up in. She has two girls, 8 and 6. They have never been to NYC, in fact the only time they left NY was to visit us, once, two years ago in NH. If I didn't know her, I wouldn't believe someone like that existed. To never go out and see what is out in the world, outside of your small bubble is just differs to me. But to each their own!
shareNot everyone has the money to travel anymore. I went to grad school in the Pacific Northwest, but am from the Midwest. Once when I was eight we went to Florida. But other than that, I never leave the county I live in, as I don't have the money.
So, no, I am not one that has never gone anywhere, but twice in my life still isn't much, and it's be over a decade since I have gone anywhere. I don't like it, I would love to travel, but I have never gotten an actual real job with benefits to then have extra money to save to play. The world isn't supposed to be that way, but it is.
All I am saying is that it's not sooo strange to never go anywhere, not in these times of few decent jobs anywhere.
I realize some people might not travel far but it was just the way it was worded that was odd to me. I'm from a small town and the next town over is two miles away. So to me if I said I had never been out of my hometown for me that would mean I would not have ever been more than two miles from my house. Most people at the very least might go a few miles down the road to a store or a friend's house and chances are that might be the next town over. That's what seemed so odd to me.
shareOh, I see what you mean. I do go farther than that, as my dentist is on the other side of the county.
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