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Why can some roles be recast successfully, and others not?


IMHO a big part of the reason that "Solo" was a financial disappointment is that you just can't recast the role of Han Solo. Yet the bulk of the fandom seems to be perfectly happy with Ewan McGregor taking over the role of Obi-Wan Kenobi, and some (myself included) say they'd like to see more of him in the role!

I consider this to be a pretty important question, with #9 being in production and all, in which Princess Leia was originally supposed to have a large role. Could another actress take over the role, and if not, why not? Did McGregor succeed just because the original role was so small that it could easily be expanded on, or did Guinness just lack a certain magic that made him unique?

Because I think that was the case with Harrison Ford in the role of Solo, he's not a great actor but somehow he managed to be so perfect that he can't be replaced. Well, in the first two films, anyway.

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Because Harrison Ford is a legendary actor and Han Solo is a legendary character. There was no way this was ever going to work because if the Solo movie attempted anything new or inventive the fans would revolt, so therefore Disney had to play it safe and produced a very bland and emotionless film.

Making a Han Solo movie was a mistake from the get go. If they were going to do a spin off on any character Boba Fett would have been the better choice, fans love the character however are not too attached to whoever is playing him.

I'm really glad that Disney is taking a break from these Anthology films for a while, they were never really that good. I personally feel they should finished Episode IX, wrap up all plot points and then just pack it up and not do any more Star Wars films.

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This is why Anthony Ingruber should have been cast as Han. Fans want to see a Harrison Ford lookalike as Han even if they think they don't.

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I respectfully disagree, the lack of physical resemblance wasn't the big problem with the recast, the lack of authentic charm and badassery was.

Really, that boy took on such an impossible task that I'd feel sorry for him, if he hadn't been paid millions for something he was guaranteed to fail at. Everyone fails sometimes, and we'd all feel better about it if we had a few million to soothe our feelings.

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Didn't someone state that he was the first and only audition for the role?

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He was the first to audition, but they auditioned others. They decided to go with him.

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It's an extremely ignorant suggestion, yet tons of people regurgitate it constantly.

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He's an impersonator, not a serious actor who could carry a film. It really blows my mind when people suggest this.

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IMHO it is due to the actor.

Ewan MacGregor always performs well and is a subtle scene stealer.

New Han Solo is barely a man. His voice was cracking like Peter Brady half the movie.

Ewan MacGregor command attention and respect. Alden is to be pitied.

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I was unaware that a 29 year old is barely a man with a cracking voice.

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It's true. See the movie. His voice cracks throughout. Not a good casting job.

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Saw it. I didn't hear any cracking. I didn't think he was badly cast. He looked just about the age Solo would be a few years before ANH.

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Funny you mention Brady. That's who he reminded me of the whole movie.

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Alec Guinness was fine in the role, but he was never as memorable as Harrison Ford was as Han Solo, and I think thats part of the reason people readily accepted McGregor in the role.

I think without wanting to sound too heartless, the fact that Guinness is dead also helps, because unless you go the Grand Moff Tarkin CGi route, theres no bringing him back in any capacity, and even if he were alive, he could never play a younger man anymore.

I didn't have a problem with the guy playing Han in the Solo movie, the problem for me was he wasn't given enough memorable Han Solo moments. The script basically played Solo as a bit of a fool that would try and do things, and pretty much ultimately fail, and this isn't the Solo we know from A New Hope, there he was arrogant and cocksure, and he had a right to be, because his schemes and making it up on the spot always seemed to work.

Han in the Solo movie pretty much seemed inept most of the time.

A shame we'll never get to see what Lord and Miller did, because they played it more for laughs, and really, thats exactly what the character of Solo should be.

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Han Solo was an integral part of the first three films, whereas Obi-Wan had a big part in the first film and appeared as a ghost in the other two. Obi-Wan was also played by an old man and it was easier to do a young recast. Han Solo was still relatively young when the first movie came out, so the "new" Han is also a young man who will be heavily scrutinized in comparison to Harrison Ford, like it or not. Ewan MacGregor and Alec Guinness were decades apart in age, playing a character several years before and after a radical change, and therefore not really to be compared to one another.

I'm of the opinion, though, that the sequel movies to Star Wars should have taken place directly after Return of the Jedi. They would have had to recast the characters, but why not? It's been 40 years. The actors could have had cameos as other characters. No matter what, they would have a hard time pleasing all the fans.

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Dude, your last sentence could not be truer.

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I'd say because Obi-wan was an elderly man who died half way through the very first Star Wars. His short scenes as a ghost counselor weren't major character types of things. Han was a major character who we have seen from his 30's on until death.

Seeing a 65-70 year old guy who had a complete back story we never knew but heard it hinted at "i was once a Jedi Knight the same as your father" "I was learner now I am the master" Han was a 30 year old guy and we watched him live and age 30 years. Seeing his teens and 20's isn't something people were dying to see.

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There's no charismatic actors anymore. You have Chris Pratt, and... well, that's it.

Back in the 70s-80s you had Harrison Ford, Sean Connery, Paul Newman, Robert Redford, Alain Delon, Jean Paul Belmondo, Clint Eastwood, Mel Gibson, Tom Cruise, Kevin Costner (those two ones were a bit too young by then, though)... any of them could fit the shoes of Han Solo.

Now, well... no country for strong men anymore.

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