Speaking of which, don't forget that Indiana Jones has its own "jump the shark," way earlier than the ET ending... "Nuke the fridge"!
I'm getting the feeling again... That movie was like a bad dream. But the motorcycle stuff in the beginning was awesome.
I know I'm really diverting onto Crystal Skulls here, but it's in my head now. One of the moments that made me the SADDEST in that movie was this part near the end, they slide down into the temple thingy or whatever, and there's that room with the "final door" that needs to be opened before they get to the skull lair where the ending goes down.
That room with the final door... It looked so sad, and so fake. Indiana goes up to the door and messes with the latch or something, I forget, but it was all so obviously styrofoam, and it was so big that the people looked like kids playing make believe. "Solving" the door was also ridiculously simplistic. It's like everyone just stopped trying to make the movie at that point.
ANYWAY... I think we'll have to just agree to disagree on the space slug, because I personally LOVE the concept of mega life forms that can live in space, or at least live in gas clouds. I also like superstructures, so Star Wars is right up my alley (and there is some in Star Trek too, like that station/city early in Star Trek Beyond).
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kuku (3510)
7 years ago
>> That movie was like a bad dream. But the motorcycle stuff in the beginning was awesome.
The first 30-60 minutes are just awesome, as good as the original ones. Then it goes full retard. In defense of Spielberg, he didn't agree with the script, but he did it for the sake of friendship with Lucas.
>> "Solving" the door was also ridiculously simplistic. It's like everyone just stopped trying to make the movie at that point.
I honestly think it's Lucas the one to blame at that point. In my (subjective) opinion, the guy is like a brilliant source of ideas... that needs around people who know when to say "no". Spielberg didn't dare to say "no" because he was his friend. And the lesson that he probably learned is that friendship sometimes is saying "no".
>> I think we'll have to just agree to disagree on the space slug, because I personally LOVE the concept of mega life forms that can live in space
For me it's a risky concept. It can work as long as they are pacific entities that do near to nothing. But it's risky because it can go towards giant monsters mode (like kaiju in space), or towards Lovecraft horror (primordials) mode, none of them work well in non-horror space opera scifi.
But anyway, disagreeing is the best part of forums ^_^
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Frogarama (12942)
7 years ago
"But anyway, disagreeing is the best part of forums ^_^"
Sorry, but I'm going to have to agree with that.
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kuku (3510)
7 years ago
By the way, I was not stating that breaking the rules of the genre and introducing external elements is a bad thing. For example, Guillermo del Toro has created an amazing universe introducing Lovecraft elements into traditional fantasy. But he has a very clear idea of what he wants to do.
When it's about: "Ok, let's take the Asteroid scene from Empire Strikes Back, but let's make it more spectacular! let's make the monster bigger! much bigger! and with lots of tentacles!"... that doesn't end well.
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