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Othe movies about traitors?


Besides "Breach" with Chris Cooper, what other films have been made about traitors?

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Wasn't there a movie about Julian Assange a few years ago starring Benedict Cumberbatch?

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This isn't a movie about a traitor. It's about a whistleblower.

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No, he was a traitor

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To whom? Assange isn't an US citizen.

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In what way is he a traitor? The traitors are the ones spying on the American people, a flagrant abuse of our rights.

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It's when you read posts like Dexter-Bateman's ones that you realise how much boiled are those who consider Snowden a traitor. :0)

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Any movie about the American Revolution ...

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Only if you believe in the divine right of kings. No one here does, so disqualified.

That limey *beep* isn't going to work on the French, either.

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One could make a case for people believing in the Divine Rights of the US Government, however...

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One could make a case for people believing in the Divine Rights of the US Government, however...

Hyperbolic to be sure. I have never, ever heard anyone apply "divine right" to the US government. There is a reference to certain rights "endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

HOWEVER, these rights are those of people, not governments. And not just American people, the framers of the Constitution made it clear these are rights they believed all people had.

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Ugh, I can't wait until the day the US finally has free college so people like you can finally get properly educated.

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Historical? Or any? Because that's about half of the Bond series, him having to take out a former 00 agent.

Also, do Jesus films count? Judas is certainly your quintessential traitor.

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By the People: The Election of Barack Obama (2009)

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How about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Films_about_the_German_Resistance?

If one believes that one's government is doing great wrong, against its own laws, and that the only remedy to this is by exposing it, then what is one to do? It's not as if government is God, or has never done anything stupid or wrong....

Funny how so many conservatives, avowed enemies of Big Government, seem to be so angry towards someone who exposes some of what Big Government is actually doing to its citizens (to "protect" them, to be sure).

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Actually, on reflection, I guess that Martin Luther was a traitor to God, or at least as He was understood in those days.

And of course, those colonial proto-Americans who had previously been in the British military presumably had sworn allegiance to the King, so that certainly makes them traitors. Perhaps they were just anticipating the suggestion usually attributed to Tallyrand: "What is treason? Merely a matter of dates."

Personally, I hope that I will always choose loyalty to principle over loyalty to governments.

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george washington was a traitor

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Disturbing audio has emerged of (former) White House information czar Cass Sunstein, that called for banning "conspiracy theories". Sunstein defined a conspiracy theory as “an effort to explain some event or practice by reference to the machinations of powerful people, who have also managed to conceal their role.”

Sunstein said government agents “might enter chat rooms, online social networks, or even real-space groups and attempt to undermine percolating conspiracy theories by raising doubts about their factual premises, causal logic or implications for political action.” -Prorevdotcom

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