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Gotham needs to go to the CW


I have always been uneasy with the idea that Fox has Gotham and Lucifer, they are known for canceling shows when they get to expensive. I was happy to hear when CW bought Supergirl. I really hope that the CW buys Gotham and Lucifer before it's to late. I am surprised it's made it this long. Let's cross our fingers that it survives.

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Agreed. Despite some errors of the Arrowverse, I think the CW is better suited for Gotham. But if the show were to join the CW, expect reduced production value and many actors will disappear. These are the characters I want to continue in the CW: Bruce, Alfred, Selina, Gordon, Bullock, Penguin, Nygma, Barbara(redeem herself), Falcon and Victor Zsas.

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They won't lose money if they let Kevin Smith work on Gotham, he is a real Comic Book genius. Frankly he needs to be DC'S golden director for the all movies and tv. I know it's a matter of time before Fox complains that Gotham is to expensive.

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The only problem is I far preferred supergirl in season 1.
I'm worried that cw would ruin gotham if it moved and like the case with supergirl some actors might quit

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Calista didn't quit SG because it changed networks. She quit because filming and production moved to Canada, and she didn't want to have to be commuting from LA every week.

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Yes the production moved locations because it moved to a different network

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For someone complains about Fox ruining gotham and talk about CW being genius is so hypocrtical imo.

Is flash good - yes
is arrow good - yes
is legends good - yes
hell is supergril good - yes.

However having Green arrow fight Rhaz was the worst decision i've ever seen made it a comic book TV show, and i've watched them all.

After beating rhaz, and then beating malcom in 20 seconds, there is no one without magical/super powers that should give him a fight. Yet every episode we have to watch him struggle in hand to hand vs random jobber henchmen. Then your telling me this promethues guy, who also trained for say 5 years after olivir trained for 5 year + the time promethues trained is going to put up a fight please.

Olivier beat someone who trained for 100's of years and never lost.. it's one of the worst comic book decisions i've seen on tv.

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Uh, what? Arrow turned to sh!t a couple seasons ago. Supergirl is for 5 year old girls.

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Literally none of those shows are good. Arrow - season 2 with deathstroke is the ONLY thing I can state is good in ANY of those shows. The Arrow and The Flash may be amusing to watch sometimes, but they are in absolutely no way "good" about how you would say Game of Thrones or Westworld is good.

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Production values would tank if it moved to the CW. Consider that Supergirl was cancelled by CBS within one season because they considered it a flop. On the CW, it gets the highest ratings of the Arrowverse...and it's not because they saw an increase in viewers.

Gotham is in its third season now, and going strong. Early in the fifth season, it'll hit 100 episodes and be eligible for standard syndication deals, but it's not until after seven seasons that the cast can use legal limits on contracts to force early renegotiations.

The biggest issue is that Fox and the CW have very different demographics. Networks tend to deal harshly with shows that they don't feel appeal to the demographic they're after (just ask Babylon 5's sequel series, Crusade), so a move to the CW would likely be followed by a quick cancellation because the "wrong" people were watching it, or because they gutted the show to appeal to the "right" audience and drove off all the viewers they actually got to follow the show to a new network.

As someone who has been a Bat-fan since Burton saved the character in 1989, I think their portrayals of characters like Penguin, Riddler, Mad Hatter, and Zsasz are on par with Heath Ledger's Joker, and can't get behind anything that would threaten to take that away.

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Sorry, but Gotham moving to CW is honestly the worst thing for this show. We see how quickly CW ends up ruining shows and I'd rather Gotham go out on a decent note than keep going and be ruined.

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CBS owns the CW; that's the main reason Supergirl made the move to the network.

If Gotham does end up getting cancelled, I can see the cast making a cameo or having recurring roles. A lot of people think that Rip Hunter's line about, "Seeing Dark Knights fall" may have been something he witnessed in the past.

Gotham does take in an indeterminate past. It could be that Batman was/is still active and like in The Dark Knight Returns and Batman vs Superman, he's just an urban legend in Gotham.

But honestly, the whole feel of Gotham doesn't fit with the Legends of Flarrowverse.

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I know I'd hate if Gotham went to the CW. I don't watch the CW shows because they just seem way too campy for me. I'm not sure if Arrow is very campy, but I know their other shows are and is too bright. I like Gotham's mix of gritty and campy. Moving to CW, it may lose its gritty theme.

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So it can become a teenage drama with low production values? No, thanks

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Exactly lol, Gotham is good where it's at. I'd rather it be cancelled by Fox than moved to CW and watch it get even worse.

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Unfortunately, the people who are pushing for Gotham to move to The CW or crossover can't seem to get it through their heads that it's never going to happen.

The best they can probably hope for is for some of the actors to do a Constantine-style one-off on one of the CW DCU shows.

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That's exactly what I was thinking.. All we're going to see is Blurred up Cinematography, women all of a sudden walkin around in heels all day, and like y'all said, it will lose it's grittiness.. Also that annoying speech pattern shows like that seem to have.. Lol..

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CW ruined Supergirl.

.....Zing!

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So Supergirl was actually good before going to CW? I thought it would be trash from the beginning.

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CW can never handle this. Their action/violence is toned down with each season and their villains keep getting worse. The best waere Black Arrow and Deathstroke. Meanwhile Gotham is literally all about villains and probably should get an MA rating based on the very graphic violent content, CW will turn it into a slightly grittier remake of Adam West's show considering their extremely stupid idea of both a 1000+ year old villain and another immortal one is a 1-dimensional moron.

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Well, I'd prefer Gotham stay on FOX, but if they do move to CW, please NO crossovers with the other CW shows!

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we're 3 seasons in on Gotham, and no rumors of displeasure... so I think 'Fox being Fox' is no longer a valid complaint.

Lucifer has gotten away with more than a few innuendo so they are hardly being micromanaged...

all things being equal I'll take 4-5 season 'well that was interesting' over 10 seasons with the last 3 being 'WTF are you doing?'

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You're right, Fox is known for cancelling shows right and left especially if they get too expensive. It makes me wonder why they even keep making these shows that would require a big budget for special effects and action-packed scenes. I can see LETHAL WEAPON getting cancelled.

I'm surprised Gotham even lasted this long. I expected to be cancelled after Season 1 simply because Fox just doesn't seem to have faith in shows all like that. Hopefully this become their next "Bones" and can make it to 12 seasons. I'm surprised BONES even lasted as long as it did and it's a shame it's coming to an end this year. That's perhaps their longest drama series to date and should keep it going. They're likely not going to get a long running show like that again.

Gotham is a show that should have been made a decade earlier so now we'll be on the thirteenth season and be further into the story. I'm curious to see what they have planned for the much further seasons and it's going to take a while to get to that point.

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Gotham is a show that should have been made a decade earlier so now we'll be on the thirteenth season and be further into the story. I'm curious to see what they have planned for the much further seasons and it's going to take a while to get to that point.


I don't think the writers have a long-term plan. I do wonder if the quick introduction of the future villains is because they worry the show will be cancelled. This could be the reason Penguin became crime lord at the end of season 1, because they worried there may not have been more seasons. This could explain why Penguin keeps losing his power as they need him to remain at the bottom rather than having everything.

Another example is the rapid aging of Poison Ivy. They couldn't really do a sexualised Poison Ivy with a 13 year old girl, so advanced her to her 20s rather than waiting a few years.

And of course Jerome Valeska, who despite them not yet confirming is the Joker has to be the future Joker, what with taking elements and appearance from different versions of the character. I know they sowed the seeds with him breaking down into laughter in season 1, but now two years on it is so apparent he is the character.

If the show does get axed, I hope they work Robin Lord Taylor and Cory Michael Smith into another DC related show as Penguin and Riddler. And maybe Sean Pertwee as Alfred Pennyworth.

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I don't think the writers have a long-term plan. I do wonder if the quick introduction of the future villains is because they worry the show will be cancelled. This could be the reason Penguin became crime lord at the end of season 1, because they worried there may not have been more seasons. This could explain why Penguin keeps losing his power as they need him to remain at the bottom rather than having everything.

I have an issue with them introducing so many villains: Penguin, Riddler, Ivy, Dent, etc. like it's too much. Some of these people we should be seeing much later. Even if they do worry about the show getting cancelled, what happens if it doesn't? Then they have a lot of backpedaling to do like you explain here with Penguin. You just have to take your chances and hope you can go on and introduce things when need be instead of cramming it all in for the sake of us seeing these people before the show gets axed before it's time. The show isn't about them really, it's about Jim Gordon and his early police days. Just like, we don't need to see Bruce become Batman while he's still a teenager if that were to come to mind.
Another example is the rapid aging of Poison Ivy. They couldn't really do a sexualised Poison Ivy with a 13 year old girl, so advanced her to her 20s rather than waiting a few years.

Why do they even need to sexualize her exactly? Why not just have some other female character there to be sexualistic? Why Ivy? We should have seen her grow up some more and even though they "aged" her, it's still jarring because mentally she's still a kid. Making her look older doesn't help much when deep down she's still a kid to be doing all that sexy stuff.
And of course Jerome Valeska, who despite them not yet confirming is the Joker has to be the future Joker, what with taking elements and appearance from different versions of the character. I know they sowed the seeds with him breaking down into laughter in season 1, but now two years on it is so apparent he is the character.

Yeah, he's basically the Joker. They certainly threw people off track when they killed him off last year, but I'd figured they'd bring him back when they had Dr. Strange bring back all those other characters who died.
If the show does get axed, I hope they work Robin Lord Taylor and Cory Michael Smith into another DC related show as Penguin and Riddler. And maybe Sean Pertwee as Alfred Pennyworth.

I hope this show doesn't get axed. This needs to stay on for about ten seasons and perhaps more after that. Like Smallville ended where Clark Kent became Superman, I'd like to see this show end where Bruce becomes Batman. Bruce was 12 in Season 1? I'm not sure how old he was in the comics when he became Batman, but I think age 24-27 is good. So this show needs to run at least twelve seasons.

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