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Another group of A-Holes who want people's stuff


I didn't dislike episode 2 in general, but come on, another group of assholes so soon?

I barely made it through two and a half seasons of Negan and the Saviours and now I have to see it all over again? FFS, do something else!

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I'm with you 100% but what else is there for them to do? They blew the entire premise of the show depicting the beginnings of the outbreak by spending so little time exploring that theme before making the show TWD Lite. I know the main characters have their fans but they spent sooooo much of the first three seasons being arrogant, stupid, and murderous that they irritate me to the point of distraction whenever they're on screen. And to this day I can't figure out why the survivors listen to and obey Madison and her brood.

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Don't worry, this time the Negan type "Mel" uses a Bicycle instead of a barbed wire baseball bat!

In all seriousness, I wouldn't worry too much, there's only so many things you can do in the post-apocalypse world, though admittedly I would prefer another CDC government type arc, in which there are successful holdouts of government and civilians in various pockets of the United States--hence the helicopters.

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Maybe, but at least they could alternate storylines. If we ignore the parent show, in Season 3 alone we had the ranch assholes, the natives assholes, the narcos assholes and the bikers assholes. An now the scavenging assholes. Too many assholes for my taste. This season should've been about pure survival, just to change pace and give us a bit of respite from big groups of eeeeevil men.

I guess that I'm not in the target audience...

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Yeah but as others have said there aint much else you can do in the apocalypse in terms of bad guys, cause thats pretty much how it would be you'd have alot of groups of psychos and bad guys going around pillaging.

At least this group is sort of different, they don't kick down doors and storm the place with guns, like their name implies they're like Vultures, they linger around waiting for people to starve and die or they give them the option to join them.


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Then steer away from bad guys for a while.

Only a cosmetic difference.

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They could mix it up with a bit of famine/sickness/environmental (inhospitable conditions like snow e.t.c.)

Looks like lack of food will be an issue this season though.

Personally, I would spend some time on the group setting up outposts at strategic points around the stadium. Slowly expanding their range e.t.c. It would reintroduce the original zombie threat if they're having to clear structures and the like.

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well last season they almost ran out of water and even ran out of air in one episode. I thought that was a pretty creative way to introduce a new situation we haven't seen before. What is supposed to be the safest place to be, locked in a bunker, got very dangerous very quickly.

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Yeah. I really enjoyed S3. Miles ahead of TWD. The whole bunker situation was pretty silly though. Who builds a bunker under their house with only one entrance...from the outside. And no oxygen monitoring system e.t.c./secondary air intake. It was a pretty serious bunker but failed on a few basics.

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They could mix it up with a bit of famine/sickness/environmental (inhospitable conditions like snow e.t.c.)

Looks like lack of food will be an issue this season though.

Personally, I would spend some time on the group setting up outposts at strategic points around the stadium. Slowly expanding their range e.t.c. It would reintroduce the original zombie threat if they're having to clear structures and the like.

I don't know that environmental struggle or infrastructure construction by itself would be compelling. But two groups competing for the same scarce resources without either one necessarily being overtly evil or assholes would be refreshing. Just two groups of people looking out for their own, staking a claim to something and trying to prevent others from doing the same. It opens up possibilities.

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I don't think the writers are capable of writing such a nuanced setup without resorting to generic group A vs group B.

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I agree wholeheartedly.

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Some of the show's problems can actually be traced back to the source material if we're honest with ourselves. Kirkman refused to explore the zombie apocalypse itself because he felt it would ruin the concept. So what you're left with is human villains. The comics might have handled the pacing better, but ultimately it was the same storytelling.

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True. I actually dislike the comics, so you are preaching to the choir!

Basically are we safe to say that in light of the repetitive and limited scope of the material, TWD would work better as an anthology?

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As far as being a tv show an anthology would have worked better for general audiences. Although the TellTale games works exceptionally well probably because they they don't have a formula (save for the grim tone). It's been argued that the games are better than the source material, AND the shows. Though i would argue the source material is still good imo. But hey, that's just me.

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I love the source material. I read the comics, and have followed also, the Telltale games ( not the recent most). Those with the younger Clementine. I don't play the games, but watch the play on Youtube.

I would not want to see an anthology. We had some of that during the first season was it? on the internet. Short stories enacted by real actors during the first throes of the ZA. It was entertaining as some short series, but I frankly didn't have a vested interest in the people.

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Which is why i said general audiences, though i still wouldn't mind a anthology.

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But this time they're hipsters!

Really wanted Madison to say "cute pants" and drive away when the little kook was talking to her and Nick through her truck window.

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