There isn't a lot I know about addiction except it's easy to happen, hard to stop, the drug will always be wanted and can unpredictably kill.
So I find it hard to believe that Nick can have all this interaction with Oxy and be able to control his urge. He also cooked (whatever) for Alejandro. How did he avoid a needle in his own arm?
I guess I'm asking someone who knows about addiction if it's possible Nick could realistically avoid using especially when the drugs are within his reach whenever he wants? With the little I know, the answer would be no.
You can handle any addiction with a substitute, a placebo or whatever. This world is Nick’s placebo, walking outside with blood and guts on him makes him high…. In this world he does not need drugs to escape a world he does not belong to (I mean the real world before the ZA).
There are actually two distinct yet overlapping addictions involved when kicking opiates or heroin.
The first is physical. Once an addict's brain stops receiving opiates connecting to the appropriate neural receptors which it is use to constantly receiving, severe physical withdraw symptoms begin to kick in. Its different for everyone but the major factors are how long has someone been abusing opiates and how much were they consuming.
Swallowing the prescribed amount of a pain killer like oxy, even though there will be some withdraw symptoms, is no where near as bad as crushing and snorting them. A hard core, long term addict goes through the equivalent of torture when they first go cold turkey like if they are arrested and can't bond out.
Then of course, crushing and shooting oxys or mainlining heroin as Strand told Nick is the gold standard or the worst of the worst. The biggest rush, the highest high and the hardest to kick. After 3-5 days of being very ill, most addicts will eventually stop puking and sh/ting and just feel like sh/t for a week or two again depending on how long and how severe their addiction was.
This is why its always best to gradually taper down and/or use an opiate replacement drug such as methadone or suboxone. Over the years I have visited numerous clients recently arrested and sometimes their withdraw is so severe that their court date had to be postponed a week or two just so they can sit through their preliminary exam without puking.
The only incarcerated defendants who will receive methadone in my state are pregnant women who were on a methadone/suboxone regiment legally prescribed and under the care of a license physician prior to being arrested. Even then the amount they receive is the bare minimum and for the sake of the baby not the addict.
The worst place in the world to kick a serious opiate habit is in the holding tank or even a one man infirmary cell and I wouldn't wish that on anyone other than a terrorist who are usually smart enough not to commit a felony while they have a severe habit.
The second phase is mental. Make no mistake, if you abuse opiates long enough your brain chemistry actually changes. I'm neither a doctor nor an addict so if your inclined you can read all the specific medical details on line as opiate/heroin abuse has had a steep incline in the US recently.
Many pill mills, especially in Florida have been raided and shut down not just by the local authorities but also the Feds. Many physicians were charged and convicted for not just over prescribing but offering incentives for referring new "clients" who became junkies if they weren't already.
Often times these "doctors" were not from the US originally but elsewhere. Mandatory computer tracking has helped identify patients who doctor shop (receive meds/prescriptions from more than one source).
Some doctors writing the scrpts without a legitimate medical purpose have attempted to hide behind physician assistants or clinic owners (non-doctors) but I can speak from first hand knowledge this is no longer a viable defense and I have seen some very stiff Federal sentences including large fines and confiscations of clinics, second and third homes, luxury auto and yachts etc just like upper end street drug dealers.
It seems every decade or two has its own drug that becomes popular. Just speaking in an extremely broad sense you had marijuana and LSD 60s-70s, Cocaine powder then crack 80s, Ecstasy and other designer synthetic drugs 90s and now prescription opiates and a resurgence of heroin as it is much cheaper and easier to get especially in urban areas.
So Nick got through the physical and now has to deal with the mental urges. If there is no dope available many former opiate/heroin addicts turn to alcohol. Personally IMO, Nick's habit wasn't as bad as it appeared (was the opening scene of Fear the 1st, 10th or 100th time Nick shot up heroin?) or he would have been slamming those oxys the first chance he got. It appears MADdy knew the routine and tried to call a doctor to call in some type of withdraw meds.
Maybe I'm not giving Nick enough credit and as others have correctly stated, perhaps Nick successfully substituted an new rush (killing zombies or whatever) for the dope he use to be addicted to.
I can't get the image of Nick laying under an elderly person's bed with the guys IV in his arm instead. It just really hit me. He looked like he was in Heaven :( He actually pulled an IV from a patient to use for himself. I assumed Nick was going at it for awhile. To me, they made it seem like it's been a problem, but I can't remember anything definitive to prove that. Watching the finale after Nick cooked those pills up and I watched him give the shot then sit back and watch Alejandro like it was no big deal. Then remembering Season 1 and him at home sick, at the church, under the old guys bed and looking thru people's cabinets for drugs I started to question how realistic they were portraying addiction. They make it look too easy, to me. I think that's dangerous.
Yes, I am prescribed Tramadol for arthritis and fibromyalgia. I used to be able to get refills. I can't anymore. Apparently people are abusing them as well!! (have a very low opioid content). Now I have to call every month to get them refilled (not a huge issue, I know). Originally my doctor wanted to take me off them completely, but I had a fit. We're going from one extreme to the other. First it was "here take all the pain meds you want" (not my doc, but apparently MANY drs in our country) and now they're cutting off people who have chronic pain. And Tramadol? Really? With such a low content? There needs to be a better way to evaluate people and situations. I take 2 a day, a.m. and p.m. After reading what you wrote, now I wonder if I'd have withdrawals from that? It's been about 4 years.
Thank you for taking the time to educate me on this subject. :) Whoa .. wait a sec ... is Tramadol messing with my brain chemistry? o.O
He already withdrew from the drugs tho. he has definitely grown from druggy nick in season 1. as someone mentioned, i think he does feel a high when he walks among them.
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Speaking as someone who went through it, with an addiction to painkillers and poppy pod tea, you're mostly accurate, but I would say you're underselling the longer-term psychological damage.
There's acute withdrawal, which is the hellish stage of symptoms that feel like the worst flu imaginable times a thousand, cold sweats, hot sweats, constant diarrhea, crushing depression, restless leg syndrome, the inability to sleep, and of course mind-shattering cravings.
That can last anywhere from two days (for someone whose habit was very small and short term), to several weeks for people who have been abusing for years.
But after that comes the post-acute phase, which is actually more dangerous in some ways. That's when the brain, accustomed to having its receptors flooded with opioids but no longer getting them, goes haywire and ushers in unfathomably deep depression.
During this stage, people get suicidal. If they're not in a treatment program, they are almost guaranteed to relapse. Likewise, a person in that stage of withdrawal is not going to be useful, a clear thinker, or very motivated to do things like Nick's been doing.
So no...FTWD has not been accurate at all in its portrayal of addiction. First of all, it didn't even hint at the incredibly pain of withdrawal. Secondly, it ignored the post-acute withdrawal phase.
But more than that, the show makes it look like someone can go through withdrawal and be cured of the issues that led them to become an addict in the first place. It doesn't work like that. You have to put in the work to address those issues, which is why any legitimate recovery program has a therapeutic component -- group meetings, one on one counseling with psychologists, etc.
I've been clean for more than six years and I still see my psychologist once a month. He is an addiction specialist. Maintenance is important, and I've found that groups like AA are not good places to be, at least for me, because 1) Not everyone is their of their own will. The people who are court-mandated, or attending because a family member or spouse gave them an ultimatum, are not serious about stopping their drug habit, and that's not something I want to be exposed to at this point in my recovery. 2) AA meetings and other drug counseling groups are, unsurprisingly, among the easiest places to score drugs.
Breaking Bad didn't make that storyline up involving Jesse -- drug dealers can and do take advantage of those meetings by selling afterward to the people involved.
This is why its always best to gradually taper down and/or use an opiate replacement drug such as methadone or suboxone. Over the years I have visited numerous clients recently arrested and sometimes their withdraw is so severe that their court date had to be postponed a week or two just so they can sit through their preliminary exam without puking.
The only incarcerated defendants who will receive methadone in my state are pregnant women who were on a methadone/suboxone regiment legally prescribed and under the care of a license physician prior to being arrested. Even then the amount they receive is the bare minimum and for the sake of the baby not the addict.
The worst place in the world to kick a serious opiate habit is in the holding tank or even a one man infirmary cell and I wouldn't wish that on anyone other than a terrorist who are usually smart enough not to commit a felony while they have a severe habit.
No joke, it can take years to properly taper down with Suboxone or methadone. I don't even know why methadone is still a treatment option when Suboxone is so much better.
The crucial thing about Suboxone is that it does not get people high. All it does is flood the receptors without triggering any of the euphoric effects of "regular" opioids.
That means an addict immediately starts to feel normal, the way they felt before they were an addict, and THAT is why it's so good at helping people get their lives back together. The cravings are gone, the worries about scoring are gone, it allows addicts to cut off "friendships" with drug buddies and dealers, and it helps them reintegrate into the real world.
Within a month of induction on Suboxone more than six years ago, I got a very good full-time job, started dating a good girl who was not in any way involved with drugs, started doing the fun things in life again, and was well on my way to repairing my relationships with family and friends.
The only advice I'd give to people looking at Suboxone is to look at a good opioid equivalency chart, preferably with the help of a knowledgeable physician, and make sure your induction dose is appropriate for your habit.
In other words, if your habit was 400mg of oxy daily, then it makes sense to induct on 4mg of Suboxone. But if your habit was 100mg of oxy or morphine, or even Vicodin, your induction should be 1mg or 2mg at most.
The reason is that it's a lot easier to taper down from 1mg than it is to taper down from the insane 16mg or 8mg that people are given to start with.
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xy, In your opinion are the doctors and clinics intentionally over prescribing methadone/suboxone just to string the patient along and keep him (and his health insurance money) around as long as possible? I've heard this complainant more than once.
Also, I've tried to find a conversion chart for methadone vs suboxone without much luck. The nearest I can figure as a starting dose 40mg methadone = 4 mg suboxone. Does that sound about right?
Would you agree if a patient wants to switch from methadone to suboxone, as you seem to suggest is better, they should detox as much as comfortably possible before they go cold turkey from the methadone for 72 hours pre-induction of suboxone?
Again, I've heard, but don't personally know that you must be clean of all opiates, even methadone, before starting suboxone or you will get very sick.