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This will not top Jacksons Kong

posted 8 years ago by justahero
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No way this will be better...
Just no way...

It may be great but Jackson´s Kong was a dream come true to him and the movie is filled with love from start to finish...and beside that it´s beautifully told story(yes some dino scenes could have been cut out)
Visually it was great at the time...Kong is amazing achievement in CGI and Motion/performance capture department
Kong vs. T-rex´s is one of the greatest monster fight scenes imo

Amazing cast...Jack Black surprised A LOT

This movie has soem impressive names of course...but and this is my personal opinion...I don´t like Tom Hiddleston 

[–] politicidal 8 years ago

It looks like a rock solid action/adventure and the trailer promises some major monster action. And yea, the 2005 remake is still an outstanding remake after all these years. Not sure why people hate it all of a sudden.

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[–] justahero 8 years ago

I am glad I found someone with Love for Jackson´s remake...

I haven´t seen it a long time and I plan to see it soon...

It is kind of forgotten gem imo...

Godzilla was another franchise that went through "realistic makeover". Like Batman or James Bond.

That is not a bad thing but the sense of adventure was gone. This movie feels like it may be the same...

Peter´s Kong recreated that good ol´ times adventure feel of old movies so well.
They don´t make movies like that anymore.

I am not hating on this film. No way! I´m just saying that it WILL NOT be as good as Kong of 2005.  And I say it in absolute certainty because that movie is just amazing

[–] GODZILLA_Alpha_Predator 8 years ago

The thing I will say about Peter Jackson's King Kong is that it is close to being one of the greatest movie ever if you shave an hour off it. The film does a lot of dragging in the first quarter and it is 3 hours long. The film spends too much time on that boat. Once they finally get to the island that is when the fun starts. I always loved how one creature after another would pop-up to serve as an obstacle and a threat to the characters. And third act is of course tragic as you would expect from a King Kong movie. It's not a perfect film but is still a pretty good film.

With Skull Island I don't expect it to be better then 2005 version but I think it will be a much easier film to watch and finish since this is not Peter Jackson directing it who likes to make his films go on far too long.

[–] SinisterCreep 8 years ago

People keep saying about the length of Jacksons Kong but i don't think that's the problem. i think the problem is the cartoonish scenes like the dino stampede and V rex fight. both went on too long and were ott and in the case of the dino stampede unfinished.

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[–] GODZILLA_Alpha_Predator 8 years ago

I still think the V. Rex fight is one of the best fight sequences in any film but I do agree with you on the dinosaur stampede. When you put humans in that scene it just does not blend together very well with lighting and depth.

[–] justahero 8 years ago

Yeah I agree that with some editing it would be more digestible for some people

[–] politicidal 8 years ago

Third that motion as well!

What's missing in movies is same as in society: a good sense of work ethic and living up to ideals.

[–] Island_Tropics 8 years ago

I absolutely LOVE Jackson's Kong.

I find the original to be wonderful but Fay Wray was terrified of Kong from when the moment they met and up to the end.

Jessica Lange's film means a lot to me because it was she that started the caring for Kong thing. Loved it.

And then Naomi hit it out of the park! Man did that 2005 film break my heart. I absolutely love this one.

[–] Big G-2 8 years ago

These guys are not setting out to duplicate Jackson's movie. Completely different story arc. No beauty and the beast. No Empire State Building, etc. Legendary is trying to take Kong a little outside of the box in this movie, which is really not a bad thing. I think that is much more preferable than doing a fourth retelling of the story (which some people still believe this is).

[–] justahero 8 years ago

No no! Sure! I don´t want them to revamp the story.

I was talking about that chilling adventure fun feel. Like Kong 2005, Indiana Jones, etc.

[–] wallacesawyer 8 years ago

Personally I think Jackson's remake is overrated, but I don't care if KONG: SKULL ISLAND is as critically or financially successful. Though I hope it is successful enough so that the studio doesn't pull the plug on GODZILLA VS KONG (2020). Just so long as it's a good movie, and doesn't turn out to be another remake.

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[–] justahero 8 years ago

of course it´s overrated...

[–] themanwithnoshame2016 8 years ago

All I can see is that you are an almost extinct breed. I once went to the 2005 Kong board. The hate was stifling.

[–] justahero 8 years ago

I think that people are stupid...

[–] exe_malaga93 8 years ago

Things that still bother me about that version:

-Overly long

-CGI abuse (it was good, but still sometimes way too much)

-Forced humor and unintentional hilarity in some scenes

-I like Aiden Brody, but he wasn't so believeable as an action hero. Hiddleston seems more like one. Black was ok.

In what I'm more certain is that it won't top the 1933 original.

[–] justahero 8 years ago

-Overly long

It was overly long definitely...Jackson kept so many filler scenes...

CGI abuse (it was good, but still sometimes way too much)

Well...CGI was good--but I kind of agree...he went from Lotr which was very well balanced...practical effects + cgi...
Kong is slightly more on the cgi side and his Hobbit trilogy that is a CGI abuse imo 

-Forced humor and unintentional hilarity in some scenes

I don´t exactly get this one.

-I like Aiden Brody, but he wasn't so believeable as an action hero. Hiddleston seems more like one. Black was ok.

I think that was the point. Make a nerdy writer the hero and the handsome hunk into a coward....
Brody´s character strength came from his love for Ann and not his muscles...
I wouldn´t call him an action hero either...Brody was one in Predators though
Black was amazing in my opinion

[–] exe_malaga93 8 years ago

About the forced humor, I still recall the scenes like: Ann first meets Jack (mistakes him with some random guy, and the actual one was right behind her); and then the Bruce Baxter's mustache joke. They could've worked in other movie, but I found them a bit cringy.

And regarding the unintentional hilarity I also have fresh memories of the whole theater laughing at Ann's dance for Kong. Maybe it was me, but I wasn't too convinced by the scene either.

And I don't buy that Brody/Driscoll would have made it through the whole thing in the Island. While he was a bit more muscular, built-up and convincing in Predators, I felt he lacked something in that other movie too, either by acting or writing of the character.

If things like these can be improved in this one, I'll be glad.

[–] SinisterCreep 8 years ago

It was overly long definitely...Jackson kept so many filler scenes...

I didn't think it was too long. i thought there was a nice build up to the island for a start.

Well...CGI was good--but I kind of agree...he went from Lotr which was very well balanced...practical effects + cgi...
Kong is slightly more on the cgi side and his Hobbit trilogy that is a CGI abuse imo

Most of the cgi was good especially Kong but some of it like the dinosaur stampede was cartoonish and unfinished.

I think the cartoonish ott scenes were the problem with the film not it's length.

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[–] justahero 8 years ago

No imo the build up was perfect! When I saw it for the first time I was very excited to see what comes next and it really paid off that they kept Kong in shadows for that long...

Those really not needed scenes were the ones where the crew runs into and runs from dinosaurs and island creatures...really cut them out and the movie would flow much better because those scenes really are not needed...I recently saw deleted scenes on youtube and there were THREE MORE action scenes of the crew running from dinosaurs...really? :D...other scenes were those lotr type of monologues into the distance with the black sailor and Jamie Bell characters...those characters will disappear after the story brings us back to New York...so why have these scenes?

[–] element722 8 years ago

Loved Jackson's Kong! So much love and effort was put into it.

[–] justahero 8 years ago

Agreed
You can just feel the love from the screen...
That´s what I like about it

[–] element722 8 years ago

I still want a Son of Kong sequel from Jackson!

[–] SinisterCreep 8 years ago

I still want a Son of Kong sequel from Jackson!

Me too. he's a big Kong fan so why isn't he doing that instead of arseing about doing bloody Tin Tin?

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[–] vidville 8 years ago

Jackson's Kong was crap!