animal cruelty
is it really nessasary to see an crocodile butchered live on television. if this is what we have come to in the name of entertainment then we`re on a slippery slope indeed
shareis it really nessasary to see an crocodile butchered live on television. if this is what we have come to in the name of entertainment then we`re on a slippery slope indeed
shareI don't know what you're getting at. Had they tortured it before killing it for the sole purposes of their entertainment, that would've been animal cruelty. It was handled the best way possible imho.
shareYou are wrong to believe the slaughter of that croc was in anyway needed or had to be "handled" in the first place. If that's how you get off then you need help!!!!!!!
This show is faked - read the news, no 'campfire' smoke without fire & I'm tired of this Muppet getting away with this!!!
ok so, what i want you to do, is i want you to go out in a remote place, i dont care where it is or what animals reside in that area, and i want you to leave your cell phone, your watch, your lifestyle and you ego, ...and i want you to stand by a tree. just stand there, and wait for as long as you can , days , weeks, months, as long as you can ......and eventually i can bet on the fact that you will move from that tree and find something to eat or drink, and you will eat or drink whatever you can find...so "faked" is saying that you can stand by that tree for a week or a month and never move for food or water, ...but real. is saying that he has to find something to eat or drink....so seriously man ...get your crap together and stop being such a PETA person and realize that unless you wanna die...your gonna have to do what you gotta do to survive....would you choose an animals life, over your own, and if you would, then you might as well just kill yourself now, because you've probably eaten plenty of chickens, cows, pigs, turkey's in your life time, that it would all amount to the fact that your still alive...so make up your damn mind, either watch the show and enjoy it, or stop eating meat, stop doing everything, and keel over and die....its as simple as that...
shareI didn't have a problem with the way it was killed, but the carrying with it's legs yanked up like that sure made my joints ache in sympathy.
...then whoa, differences...
I agree, and check out todays news - fakery galore on this pathetic, pointless show. Setting up a water pool is one thing (producers just need to be honest about that) but at no point was it necessary to cause that crocodile such an agonising death at all let alone for tv "entertainment". They've even been caught out for shipping-in 2 baby crocs just to butcher one for tv entertainment. They said they shipped-in crocs so as not to mess with the eco system. Er how about not being there, ****** all over that island in the first place you *****!
Sick ********!
I don't see it as animal cruelty. They killed it quickly, minimising any suffering it may have felt, and they did it so they could eat. I appreicate that elements of the show are set-up, but you can't fake them losing the weight they are clearly losing by not eating. On Bear Grylls' other shows, he acknowledges that situations ar set up so he can demonstrate what you should do if in that situation. So although the situation is artificially created, he still has to deal with it, whether it's crossing a frozen river or jumping down a waterfall.
Why isn't anyone complaining about the cormorant that was killed? Presumably because it was already in pain? What about the fish they've killed, or the snails? It all amounts to the same thing - they're killing so they can survive. It's the food chain. They weren't going to eat the Stone Fish, but it was still killed. Don't see many complaints about that. Just because the Cayman was a large animal that may or not have been put there specifically for that purpose, they still had to catch it, kill it, skin it, etc and that's what they did because they needed the food. Lets not forget that cows, chickens, lambs, etc, etc, etc are bred SPECIFICALLY to be killed and put on supermarket shelves. Think about how much of that is then thrown out because it is past a sell-by date. That is needless. This was necessary. The show is about surviving in the wild. That obviously involves killing and eating animals. Nobody is making you watch it.
I guess, like me, as an animal lover you also watch wildlife programs? Who are you rooting for when the crocodile attacks the baby wildebeast drinking at the water pool? The crocodile is killing to survive. They don't need to show it on the program, we can all assume the croc gets his dinner, but they show it and we watch and nobody complains that it's animal cruelty. It's the same thing. Ever walk past a butchers window and complain about how he's butchering the animals? Same thing.
It's entertainment to us becuase we're watching it as a tv show. To the guys on the island, they're doing it because they're starving. You can argue that by being there they're upsetting the eco system, but I'm more frustrated at the amount of garbage thrown overboard by ships that gets washed up on the beaches. That's worse for the eco system because that probably results in the death of lots of fish and birds which are dying for no reason since there's nobody there to eat them!
All good points here. I'm enjoying the show. What if we all lost even the basics of modern living and had to slaughter our own food to survive rather than pick it up off the supermarket shelf? Would you kill that caiman or let it go because you felt bad for it? They treated it with respect and appreciated what it had given them.
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Are you a vegetarian? Even if you are, at one point in your life I know you ate meat. The animals that died for that meat are treated way worse in the factory farms they grow up in before they are killed to make your food, leather, suede, ect.
sharefair point mate but my problem is killing animals in such a way as to titilate viewers need for sadisim. since first posting this i have seen a lot worse on facebook. seems the in thing these days to torture and maim.
shareIve been veggie my whole life and never eaten meat. I had no problem with it. I cried a bit when the piggies screamed as they died but I can't help that. I actually encourage the live slaughter of animals on TV. Too many meateaters are in denial about where their food comes from and I'd have more respect if people not only faced the reality but even had a go at killing themselves.
shareGood point ellybendi. I've been a carnivore my whole life but when I was really young, I had to kill a chicken. :( My grandmother insisted that I had to learn and appreciate where my food comes from. Still, for most of us in developed nations, we don't REALLY want to know what happened before those steaks hit the butcher's shelves.
I'm still a meat eater, but I do my best when possible to buy what I HOPE is actually being stated on the labels. If I'm really lucky, I'm able to get beef from a cattle farmer close to my parents. Small scale and treats his animals with respect.
People should see what's involved and as long as it's not done sadistically or inhumanely, there's nothing wrong with it.
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