Why? Why go in the basement?? - The Visit (2015) Discussion

[–] foebane72 9 years ago

The children thought they were just crazy old people, not killers.

Remind me once again: Did the girl go into the basement BEFORE or AFTER the children see the dead woman hanging outside the front door?

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[–] megganobrien 9 years ago

After!

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[–] Mewmento 9 years ago

that was after.. bro

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[–] wreckage-1 9 years ago

The children thought they were just crazy old people, not killers.

At the very least, she thought they were kidnappers since she went down there to find her grams and gramps. Not really advisable, get out, get the police, let them look down there.

And she went down after she saw the hanging girl.

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[–] svalinanikola 9 years ago

Wasn't she trying to find the real grandparents?

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[–] minasituation 9 years ago

This was so annoying. What would lead her to believe her grandparents were being kept alive in the basement? Why would she walk around there calling their names?? And it's not like she's super attached to them so she was having trouble accepting the obvious truth-- she had never met them before literally ever. For such a smarty pants 15 year old, this girl was the stupidest person in every sense in this movie.

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[–] mr_binks 9 years ago

I think it's because she's a film maker and wanted to capture everything.

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[–] moviewizguy 9 years ago

I think it's been established that kids are more likely to snoop around to find information than seek an adult for help. After all, the grandparents locked all the doors. There wasn't a way for them to escape. If you were in their position, wouldn't you be curious to find out where your real grandparents are?

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[–] megganobrien 9 years ago

No. I wouldn't think to "investigate" where my real grandparents are after my mother told me the people you thought were "off" the whole time were not my Grandparents! My goal would have been figure out a way to GTFO and worry about the details later!
It was like a bad 80's movie! Girl, do NOT go in the dark and scary basement!

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[–] roueelavsky 9 years ago

Yep, I'd be trying to see if there was anything I could use as a weapon just in case (fireplace poker, bat, knife, anything) and looking at windows to see if any of them would be easy to escape out of.

Also, they did run out the door in the end and the key was kept in the lock, so they still could have just ran out.

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[–] snailbear 9 years ago

Locked doors mean nothing. When I was a kid, my sister and I would jump out of (ground floor) windows and/or walk around on the roof just for fun. I don't see what was keeping these kids from escaping, just because a door is locked.

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[–] rtodd110 9 years ago

So we can see some scary *beep* and be entertained.

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[–] slidell333 9 years ago

^^^yep. I like the film but that was nothing more than a scene to have a scary scene. It obviously made no sense whatsoever, even to a child/young adult. Her mom told them to leave and go to a neighbor.

Dave "Crown Time" Blankenship for Time Man of the Year.

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[–] Tyler-A-Arse 9 years ago

1--Let's NOT head straight for the door when you find out those are NOT YOUR GRANDPARENTS!!!

2--And yeah, let's go in the basement AFTER YOU'VE SEEN A DEAD BODY SWINGING FROM A TREE!!!!

Some stupid-ssA writing.

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[–] slidell333 9 years ago

It reminded me of that commercial (Geico??) where the man with a chainsaw is after the kids/young adults and one says "Let's go to the running car!" and the other one says "no, let's hide behind these chainsaws...Good idea!" And the killer just has a stupid look on his face. Might be a car company commercial. Haven't seen it in awhile..

100% typical horror movie "logic." And in this movie the girl was portrayed as very smart. She couldn't possibly believe the real grandparents were alive, hoping to rescue them and help her...a real airhead I could get behind that...the story could have been written better. She could have ran outside for help and get confronted by another escaped loony-bin patient or something (like one of the people that came to the house...make one of them a little suspect by their behavior). Something.

Dave "Crown Time" Blankenship for Time Man of the Year.

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[–] Tyler-A-Arse 9 years ago

It reminded me of that commercial (Geico??) where the man with a chainsaw is after the kids/young adults and one says "Let's go to the running car!" and the other one says "no, let's hide behind these chainsaws...Good idea!" And the killer just has a stupid look on his face.

That commercial effing kills me! Funny as hell.

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[–] slidell333 9 years ago

Better writing.

Dave "Crown Time" Blankenship for Time Man of the Year.

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[–] herbf-07855 9 years ago

Look, I'm not going to say it was an awful movie, that's subjective, but FOR ME, it was an awful move. Yea, so they're not the real grandparents, they're from the psych hospital, OK, so when is the REAL twist coming? Sorry, I was just expecting so much more of a plot twist than that.

And that commercial, you're absolutely right. The line that hits this movie on the head is: Girl: "Can't we just get in the running car [that's pointed away from the house]"? Guy: "Are you crazy"????? And, of course, at the end...."Head for the cemetery"! Now that's writing.

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[–] minasituation 9 years ago

The girl was actually not portrayed as smart. She was portrayed as desperate to SOUND smart. Anytime actual smarts would have helped, she did the stupidest thing possible. She kept trying to push these stupid interviews even after the grandma almost lost her mind the first time. She got all the way in the freaking oven, ALL THE WAY IN. She didn't take control and listen to her mom and say "Ok little bro, time to run away and find a neighbor ASAP", but instead went to play Yahtzee with them. Oh, and then left her little brother alone with the two craziest old people ever to go investigate in the basement for the grandparents she apparently believed were totally alive down there.

Even normal social behavior was beyond her. When she was trying to get the hospital lady to "look natural" with the dish she was holding she just kept repeating herself and then was like "ugh nevermind". How rude is that??? Smart people know how to act around people in a way that makes them like you. AKA nicely. The only thing she might have been good at was making movies, but from everything we saw, she was obsessed with her movie coming off super sickly pseudointellectual. By no means was this a smart character, just a different-looking dumb one.

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[–] gmoxie 9 years ago

The girl was actually not portrayed as smart. She was portrayed as desperate to SOUND smart. Anytime actual smarts would have helped, she did the stupidest thing possible.

I agree. And the whole oven scenes (BOTH times) were ridiculous.

When she was trying to get the hospital lady to "look natural" with the dish she was holding she just kept repeating herself

I looked at this from the standpoint of the lady, because some people immediately become uncomfortable and stiff when they know they are being videotaped, regardless of what anyone says to them, they can't relax. The "ugh nevermind" was not appropriate though - the girl could have said, "that's fine, thank you" and made the lady feel she did okay and an appreciation for her time.

The only thing she might have been good at was making movies, but from everything we saw, she was obsessed with her movie coming off super sickly pseudointellectual.

She was obsessed with getting her mom to reconcile with the grandparents. That's why she insisted on going to meet them even though her mom didn't want the two kids to go. She was making the movie to try to uncover the truth about what happened a decade ago and why they weren't speaking, with the underlying assumption that she could bring everyone together again with the movie. I don't know why she would be obsessed with that given she never knew her grandparents. She wasn't willing to accept that sometimes adults have good reason to cut off communications with relatives and it's less stressful to just let it be rather than force an uncomfortable reunion -- especially since she didn't know what happened like maybe the grandfather raped her mother, or something like that. I can somewhat understand the kids being curious about the house that their mom grew up in (e.g. the swing out in the yard was still there!), since it had not been sold and the grandparents still lived there.

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[–] Goodbye_from_Fox_In_A_Box 8 years ago

The girl was actually not portrayed as smart. She was portrayed as desperate to SOUND smart. Anytime actual smarts would have helped, she did the stupidest thing possible. I agree. And the whole oven scenes (BOTH times) were ridiculous.

I'm glad the "nana" didn't actually try and cook the kid. We were set up twice, and after the first time, it looked as tho she was going to turn the oven on.

When she was trying to get the hospital lady to "look natural" with the dish she was holding she just kept repeating herself I looked at this from the standpoint of the lady, because some people immediately become uncomfortable and stiff when they know they are being videotaped, regardless of what anyone says to them, they can't relax. The "ugh nevermind" was not appropriate though - the girl could have said, "that's fine, thank you" and made the lady feel she did okay and an appreciation for her time.

She's a kid. Kids are rude. A lot. Tho I never was.

The only thing she might have been good at was making movies, but from everything we saw, she was obsessed with her movie coming off super sickly pseudointellectual. She was obsessed with getting her mom to reconcile with the grandparents. That's why she insisted on going to meet them even though her mom didn't want the two kids to go. She was making the movie to try to uncover the truth about what happened a decade ago and why they weren't speaking, with the underlying assumption that she could bring everyone together again with the movie. I don't know why she would be obsessed with that given she never knew her grandparents. She wasn't willing to accept that sometimes adults have good reason to cut off communications with relatives and it's less stressful to just let it be rather than force an uncomfortable reunion -- especially since she didn't know what happened like maybe the grandfather raped her mother, or something like that. I can somewhat understand the kids being curious about the house that their mom grew up in (e.g. the swing out in the yard was still there!), since it had not been sold and the grandparents still lived there.

The intent of going to the grandparents was 2-fold. First, it was to get to know the grandparents she and her brother never got to meet. Secondly, it was planned so the mom could go on the cruise with her bf. I'm sure, if their mom felt as tho the kids would be in harm's way, she wouldn't have allowed them to go in the first place, so I'm not buying that the grandfather could have raped his daughter, or anything extreme. The mom was a bit of an airhead, but she wasn't a complete idiot.

But I agree that the girl did everything she could to sound smart, and yet she made the wrong decisions, every time.

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[–] KilRydLoad 9 years ago

She's obviously unfamiliar with these words of wisdom :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maS68s9jpYo

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[–] dakowill11 9 years ago

Yeah totally agree! Immediately upon learning that the old couple you thought were your grandparents aren't I'd have flown out that door and never looked back like Lot fleeing Sodom!

Not to mention if I'd been Stacey (the character who brings a platter of food and later returns only to wind up dead) once I'd connected the dots that this couple had stolen the identities of the real couple you had come to visit I'd have fled the scene and called the police rather than follow them.

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[–] mgreen9715 9 years ago

Because it was a plot device and necessary for the movie continue? Obviously if she hadn't gone in the basement, she wouldn't have found the real grandparents. Therefore the movie would cease to exist from that point forward.

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[–] Zandretti 9 years ago

She could just *beep* run. People doing reasonable things don't hurt movies. It's retarded plot devices that ruin them.

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[–] koffeenkreame41-1 8 years ago

Because it was a plot device and necessary for the movie continue? Obviously if she hadn't gone in the basement, she wouldn't have found the real grandparents. Therefore the movie would cease to exist from that point forward.

This. It also was an arc for the mom and the daughter, the daughter was angry at her father for leaving, so much so that she didn't even want to show him in the documentary, after she finds her parents dead, the mom regrets now never returning the phone calls to her parents & reconcilling with them. She basically makes the daughter promise that she doesn't do the same, which is why the daughter including the footage of them with the father at the end. I'm surprised some haven't mentioned this yet. I think the daughter went down there to see if their grandparents were tied up/held captive and would probably hope to have some help until the mom had the cops there.

I don't know why but it's kinda funny some people think that two kids around 15 years old would want to fight two crazy, demented people on their own especially after the moom told them to stay put, she was calling the cops. Most kids would be completely scared sh-tless, that's why they do kill them but only when they were in survival mode, the 'grandma' was trying to bite her, the girl had to fight to stay alive, as for the brother, he completely lost it after he was being humilated, taunted and very nearly killed by the 'grandpa.'

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[–] shinigami_ichigo 8 years ago

If it was a plot device it was a below par plot device in my opinion. The mother's reconciliation with her dead parents or the daughter's reconciliation with her father could have happened irrespective of whether the daughter went to the basement herself or not. The writer could have just told us in the epilogue that the cops ended up finding the dead grandparents in their basement. Maybe a scene where the mother explains it to her children and then leading into the reconciliation you were suggesting. Both the kids are portrayed as reasonably smart through out the entire duration of the movie, so when becca decides to go exploring the basement, by herself, leaving her brother with the sick (best case scenario) "grand parents" it just comes off as extremely out of character for her.

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[–] KingCobra686 8 years ago

This is never a legitimate excuse for things that dont make sense in a movie. Obviously the writers wanted her down in the basement so that she would uncover the bodies of her real grandparents and all the random evidence that the people she thought were them were faking it.

It is up to the writers to make sense out of the decisions that they make with the plot. It doesnt make much sense for her to have gone down in that basement.

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