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East Asia's world war: the IMJIN WAR


Anyone here interested in ancient Asian military history? For those who love the classic kung-fu movies back in the early to mid-1970s, you probably got a taste of it as the movies took place four to three hundred years ago. In the last ten years as the Chinese and Korean movie industries took off and grew, more historical Asian war movies appeared, much appreciated without the schlocky kung-fu flying-thru-the-air nonsense.

Europe had its world wars and indeed, by the definition of what makes a world war, there have been several others that should have been counted among the world wars: Hunnic invasions of Asia and Europe; Alexander's conquest and unification of Greece and his invasions of the Near East and Central Asia; the Arabic invasions of Europe, Eurasia, and Central Asia; the Thirty Years War; the Seven Years War; the Napoleonic Wars.

But western historians should pay attention to the Far East and East Asia, essentially the same geography.

In 1592, Japanese warlord Hideoyoshi Toyotomi succeeded in unifying all of Japan - heretofore a patchwork of warring, powerful daiymos - under his iron rule. Seeking to further his long-held ambitions and no doubt to keep hundreds of thousands of samurai warriors, ashigaru soldiers, and the daiymos themselves pre-occuppied, Hideoyoshi the taiko (regent) embarked upon a massive sea-borne invasion of Korea with the intent of conquering Ming China. The plan was straightforward. Run a katana sword thrust through the heart of Korea and bring that country to willing submission. Subsequent, Japanese and Korean armies would mount a lightning blitzkrieg from northwest Korean straight into the heart of Ming China, it's capital, Beijing, then known as, Peiping. Following the overthrow of the Ming emperor, Hideoyoshi would transfer the Japanese figurehead emperor to the Ming Dragon Throne, to rule as a puppet emperor, while a Hideyoshi relative took the Japanese throne. Hideoyoshi would be the grand supreme warlord of Japanese China, Korea, and homeland Nippon. Massive Chinese armies, supplemented by the Korean army and all built around a core of steady, battlehardened Japanese samurai and ashigaru soldiers, would fan out to conquer India and the Philippines. After that, who knew? Perhaps Hideoyoshi might be tempted to follow the path of the Huns and the later Mongols and sweep westward through Eurasia and to the very doors of Europe itself, sweeping away everything in front with their deadly katanas and effective matchlock firearms.

I hoped here to pique your curiosity. I'm not going to write a huge history lesson here. Go to Google and type in, 'the Imjin War', or, the Japanese invasion of Korea in 1492. The war was so devastating that Korea never fully recovered from it. While victorious in repelling the Japanese after five years of brutal fighting and horrendous losses and terrible devastation, the history of East Asia changed. The weakened Ming Chinese dynasty would collapse in 1644. Korea didn't seem to learn from its war. A modern, militarized Japan would return in 1894 and 1910 with modern, metal warships built along British lines with a modern army built along Prussian influence, and would accomplish in 1910 what it couldn't do in 1592, completely conquer Korea and subjugate her people. But that is another history lesson.

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Nice history lesson but I think you glorify it too much from the Japanese point of view. The Japanese murdered, raped, tortured, and pillaged countless Koreans just to fulfill their cruel imperialist whims.

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You misunderstood me. The Japanese were the aggressors and killed, murdered, plundered, pillaged, and lay waste to Korea. Believe me, I am not glorifying Nippon. From military histories, even from the Koreans' viewpoint, there's no denying the awesome Japanese military war machine, backed up by samurai katanas and tactically savvy, even if squabbling with each other, Japanese generals. The Koreans are historically compelled to acknowledge this fact and the fact of their own unpreparedness, a fault NOT of the Korean people, but of their disreputable political leadership. The Korean history of the Imjin War is a tragedy in so many angles. Any in-depth history of the Imjin War cannot avoid mentioning the deliberate unpreparedness of the Korea to defend itself even though it could have and should have. Incompetent Korean government officials and incompetent Korean military leaders failed to intercept and sink the Japanese invasion fleet before it could have landed in Pusan. Even when the brilliant Admiral Yi Soon Shin assumed supreme command, and despite being beloved by the Korean people, was greatly mistrusted then betrayed by King Sonjo, the Korean government namely the West Faction, and traitorous Korean military high-ranking officers like Admiral Won Kyun. Unbelievably, King Sonjo believed all the malicious lies about Admiral Yi and had the man arrested, imprisoned and tortured. Admiral Won Kyun is a fascinating grandly incompetent military leader who somehow escaped all the traditional Korean punishments for failed and incompetent Korean government officials and military leaders, that is, arrest, imprisonment, beatings and torture, banishment exile or execution. Somehow, wily, silver-tongued, forked-tongued liar Won Kyun helped engineer the overthrow of Yi and took over supreme command of the Korean navy, only to allow it to be almost totally destroyed by an inferior Japanese naval force. The whole story of how a totally deficient man like Won Kyun could have risen to the heights of military power, escaped the consequences of military failure and incompetence, and got promoted higher and then allowed unmitigated disaster to overtake Korea. Had King Sonjo trusted Admiral Yi, there would have been no second invasion of Korea. There would have been only the sunken Japanese invasion fleet and a hundred thousand Japanese at the bottom of the Yellow Sea.

That is why someone like me, who reads the history of the IMJIN WAR, is so dismayed at Korean misfortune and all the success and lucky breaks the Japanese achieved early in the war. You have to shake your head in incredulity when a modern Japanese war machine invades Korea in 1910 and finds the country with essentially the same state of military unpreparedness as in 1592, thanks to 600 years of non-stop, vicious, traitorous political infighting among the Korean government factions, the same in 1910 as in 1592.

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Fascinating!!!!

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Not only Koreans but every country they had occupied and bullied there way into. They have a terrible track record with War Crimes and such awful things.
The Rape of Nanking was one of the worst spectacles that the Japanese had done to an occupying country of theirs.
They only stopped their horrible ways because the U.S. kicked their ass in WW II and ultimately had to drop the only nukes in history on them.
On another note this film was one of the better Naval films I have seen and different in that it was mid 1500 warfare that I knew little about. Not the best Naval war film I've seen but in my top 4 for sure!!

THERES NO ROOM IN MY CIRCUS TENT FOR YOU !!!!

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