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Poisoning young girls minds

posted 8 years ago by triachgul3
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This is "Brave" all over again.

Shes rude, selfish, inconsiderate, demanding, arrogant, spiteful, gloating and simply put annoying.

Thats what a young girl is supposed to identify with?

What ever happened to modesty?

TEACH ME TO SAIL

Is probably one of the most annoying ways to ask someone to teach them something and then even get away with it.

Feminism really killed femininity.

[–] Brother_h 8 years ago

I thought that Moana was more realistic than the Brave girl(forgot her name), and Moana did learn to be more considerate and polite.

She started like a little monster, but she grew up and matured. A little. She admitted to her mistakes which is what a good role model should do, rather than Superman Mind-wipe everything with a kiss.

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[–] Therru_Babayaga 8 years ago

Shes rude

No, she's not.

selfish, inconsiderate

She went to search for Maui because her island was dying. Before that, she was ready to give up on her dream to sail the sea to become the chieftain her people needed.

But sure, that's totally selfish and inconsiderate, she left on a dangerous journey just to have fun and party.

arrogant

She asks help all the time and admit her own mistakes.

spiteful

I don't even know who you are talking about...

gloating

... But certainly not about Moana. I think you watched a different movie. She was awkward and unsure of herself, she kept her composure only because the ocean was there to support her and she was pushed by her dream and her grandmother memory, as well as the love for her people and her anger for what Maui did.

What ever happened to modesty?

She never brags because she knows she has a lot of shortcomings, but that doesn't mean she has to be shy and never take matter into her hands or improve herself.

Is probably one of the most annoying ways to ask someone to teach them something and then even get away with it.

Maui is a complete jerk at this point of their journey (he left her on his island and sailed away!), and asking nicely won't be enough. Sometimes, it's important to tell people exactly what you want and not back down. Not accepting being bullied is important.

Feminism really killed femininity.

Your idea of feminity is probably a shy girl wearing a dress and smiling awkwardly with her head down and always agreeing with you.

It's your post and ideas that are poison to young girls minds, implying the only way to be a "real woman" is to be submitted and quiet. You don't care about who they are, only what you want them to be. You certainly don't consider girls as full human beings and I can feel your misoginy through your tone and every word of your post.

[–] Shychick52 8 years ago

THIS. ^^ This 100%.

[–] trollepina 8 years ago

Can't agree more. Better have this portrayal of an "annoyying, selfish, arrogant" girl than that "sweet, calm, humble" girl... Life's so boring with all these perfecly nice characters I suppose, lol. Go, Moana, go!

[–] OhNooos 8 years ago

I agree with your points, Therru. It's actually horrifying that anyone equates feminine with being submissive.

OP, being submissive isn't healthy for anyone or for relationships. The opposite, aggressive, isn't healthy either. The goal is to strike the balance and be assertive. Assertiveness shows a healthy respect for the self and others.

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

I agree with your points, Therru. It's actually horrifying that anyone equates feminine with being submissive.

OP, being submissive isn't healthy for anyone or for relationships. The opposite, aggressive, isn't healthy either. The goal is to strike the balance and be assertive. Assertiveness shows a healthy respect for the self and others.

Well said!

[–] UnvoicedApollo1 8 years ago

Agreed.

[–] Voice-of-Discernment 8 years ago

Thank you for this!

[–] Pania8407 8 years ago

LOL i love when trolls get schooled!!

[–] PaintMeBlue 8 years ago

Very well said! This is a girl who gave up on her dreams for the betterment of her people. Only when their lives were on the line that she put her own life on the line multiple times to help them. Maui wasn't listening to her, he was arrogant, and selfish, she got his attention. Funny that everything you described Moana supposedly is, is what Maui the male figure was. Why was that not mentioned? Oh because it is acceptable with a male? Sheesh there is all kinds of wrong thinking with the OP.

[–] carrot_handvo 8 years ago

How did she give up on her dreams??? Her dream was to sail
And she didn't only try to go to when the island was in danger. She tried every secomd, from a small baby.

[–] avlis-nec 8 years ago

100% with you Therru_Babayaga

[–] MisterKorman 8 years ago

Well done.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAryFIuRxmQ

[–] Dan-365 8 years ago

Your response was excellent!

[–] OpinionsByLennon 8 years ago

And this is why I feel Judy Hopps is a much better role model!

She worked hard for what she got, she was never selfish or full of her self, she was brave and confident but also honest and kindhearted. And when she made a mistake she admitted to it and apologized.
She proved that a story can have a strong female that isn't afraid of a fight but also can be an extremely caring and gentle individual at the same time. No one is perfect but we all have to try to be the best we can be!

[–] UnvoicedApollo1 8 years ago

No one is perfect but we all have to try to be the best we can be

Sums up Moana: Has no idea what she's doing and admits it. She is kind and empathetic to the point of giving up her dreams for her people. The only reason she goes out to the ocean is as a leader, it's her responsibility to save them. She helps Maui with his inner turmoil but she also mistakes her status as the Chosen One as enabling her to do more than she really can. She only succeeds when she realizes who Te Ka really is and uses her kindness and empathy to restore the heart.

She's not perfect, but she definitely tries to the best she can be no matter what life throws at her, whether it's giving up her dream to lead her people or sailing the ocean to save them.

[–] veelalynne 8 years ago

I think we can all agree that OP is a moron.

[–] tattooed_dancer69 8 years ago

OP asks what happened to modesty whilst putting forth their opinion as fact...

[–] Justin-Maikranz-11 8 years ago

2/10 troll attempt.

[–] marclev78 8 years ago

I really hope you're trolling. Otherwise, go back to whatever misogynistic hellhole you come from.

[–] magnusplin 8 years ago

Shes rude, selfish, inconsiderate, demanding, arrogant, spiteful, gloating and simply put annoying.

Obvious troll is obvious.
Also, don't even compare Moana to Merida. That's an insult to Moana.