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There were clues weeks ago that the sister was unstable (SPOILERS)


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When she went over the top with injecting her flesh to try and get pregnant, and even the husband at the time looked freaked out, it was insane, the desperation from her was not normal.

And on the pilot episode she already told Eric what he should and shouldn't do straight away, but because she was a lawyer, it was overlooked, overall she was just really covering her own tracks.

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There were clues throughout the season. I suspected Amanda basically from episode 1, and it only became clearer throughout the season that she was the killer.

The name of the show is 'Secrets and Lies', and following the formula from the first season, we knew many crazy things were going to be revealed about each family member and that they would all be used as red herrings at some point. So when suspicions about Patrick or RB or Liam came up, I knew to write them off right away. Amanda was the only one who was never directly suspected by Eric until the finale's reveal. She was supposed to be the one person he would never suspect, and that's who always turns out to be the killer in these types of stories. Plus her motive (being jealous of Kate's pregnancy) was revealed in a pretty straightforward way as the show detailed her fertility issues and how that destroyed her marriage. This wasn't all presented in a way that would make viewers directly suspect her, but if you were paying attention, it was clear from the beginning that it couldn't have been anyone else.

What doesn't make sense to me though is how it took Cornell so long to figure out. Why didn't she ask Eric "who didn't you see?" during their first interview? It shouldn't have been hard to figure out where people were at the party if she asked the same question to everyone who was there. It would have became self evident that Amanda did it because no one could say they saw her around the time Kate was pushed. I get that it can't be that simple because this is a TV show and they have to have a season's worth of conflict, but in the real world, a real detective would have figured this out pretty quickly. Furthermore, the fact that the true damning evidence was the blood on the plant and the unworn jacket, the rest of this season's conflicts, while entertaining, were ultimately useless to figuring out who the killer was.




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xXAssassinXx: That's very interesting, i think Amanda could have handled the pregnancy of Kate, it was when Kate said "What is wrong with you?" that was the trigger point for Amanda due to the fact that she couldn't conceive.

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My first and only guess was Amanda/Mandy but for TV/suspense/twist reasons.


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Dr_Sagan: Real talk! I thought at one point earlier on in the series that it was Amanda, iv'e watched enough of these type of shows to suspect everyone, but they did a good job at concealing it and always shoved other suspects in our faces.

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Dr_Sagan: Real talk! I thought at one point earlier on in the series that it was Amanda, iv'e watched enough of these type of shows to suspect everyone, but they did a good job at concealing it and always shoved other suspects in our faces.


Do you remember a movie Perfect Stranger (2007), with Bruce Willis and Halle Berry?
Back then we were at my house with some friendly couples watching this movie. At some point the "who is the killer" question came up and we were divided in 3 groups: Willis, Berry and the tech guy.

I think it was Willis at the end, BUT I learned afterwards that they shot ALL 3 endings with each one being the murderer.
I then realized that it is pointless, in many occasions but certainly not in all, to search for clues in order to find the killer of a movie or a tv show.
In many occasions even in a second viewing (knowing by then who have done it) they didn't put any serious clues there for the audience to notice.

I usually find the killer with "cinematic" criteria: like the least suspicious suspect, even the ...dead suspect. Or the famous actor syndrome like in an Elementary episode where David Costabile was seeing among other people in an elevator as a janitor and so on.



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Watch it again. Halle Berry was the killer. Then at the end she killed Giovanni Ribisi, the tech guy, after he figured it out. Then she killed him in the kitchen and someone across the street saw the whole thing through the window.

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Even with her being the killer, I think she's one of the more sane characters in the show, including the police. The only one I thought was clearly not the killer was the husband.
Good job for those who figured it out early.

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