F-130's? Umm no.
F/A-18 Hornets and they are not swept wing aircrafts. Dammit... can this show get one thing right?!
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Rick
Failure is not an option
F/A-18 Hornets and they are not swept wing aircrafts. Dammit... can this show get one thing right?!
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Rick
Failure is not an option
Could be worse, destroyers could be 300 yards off the coast armed with bgm (TOW) missiles.
shareThey didn't get a single thing right about anything military in the 2-part Civil War episode. This is coming from someone who started out his military career as an F-4 Phantom Weapons Systems Officer in the Air Force and then switching over to the Army as an Armor/Cavalry officer and retiring after 29 years and three wars in uniform. Nothing about the two fighter aircraft made any sense. The whole episode is FUBAR with no basis in reality.
Okay, the F/A-18 is one generation later than what I flew, but I'm pretty sure that despite many computer-controlled aspects of the aircraft, they haven't built in a system with which an outside computer hacker could release any weapon. The pilot still has to physically hit the Weapons Select switch, flip the Safe/Arm switch and then physically squeeze the trigger on the joystick. Even if the fighter was a totally fictional "F-130", the US Department of Defense would never procure a combat aircraft with a computer-controlled hackable system where an outsider can cause the aircraft to launch a weapon for exactly that reason.
Air-to-air missiles have a minimum range at which they can be fired so that the warhead can arm without blowing up in the face of the launching aircraft. At the range at which the lieutenant commander's plane fired at her wingman, the missile either would have hit the wingman as a dud and gone ballistic after impact, or have gone in front of the wingman and blown up somewhere in front of him. If it had detonated in real life at the range it was depicted on the show, both planes would have blown up.
Nothing in the aircraft's flight control system can interfere with the ejection system. Both pilots could have punched out at anytime. (I can understand their staying with the aircraft in case control somehow returned to them, so I won't push that point any further.)
Letting the fighter's fuel burn down to empty to flame out the engines, so that Team Scorpion could reboot the computer remotely, makes absolutely no sense. The electronics will keep running on the battery bus as long as the batteries have any power. And then restarting the engines after the reboot and pulling out of a 90 degree dive, so she can go on her merry way back to home base? ON WHAT FUEL???
(In real life, I'm sure there's a circuit breaker in the cockpit that could shut off the computers, but then again, they wouldn't need to turn off the engines to do that.)
And then Walter and Paige watch a missile frigate off Los Angeles harbor fire a cruise missile at them, and they have time to run down the hallway, pry open an elevator door and slide down the cable before the missile impacts?
While I was trained at nuclear weapons delivery at the F-4 Replacement Training Unit, I never did so operationally. But I do know enough about nuclear weapons safeguards to know that in ICBM silos and on Ballistic Missile Submarines, a nuclear missile cannot be launched unless the two officers authorized to launch them physically insert and activate their launch keys simultaneously into keyholes that are physically too far apart for one person to do both. No computer hack can override that safeguard.
And last but not least, regarding the supersonic Valkyrie bomber (full nomenclature: North American XB-70 Valkyrie), only two test prototypes were built before production was cancelled. One crashed in a midair collision in 1966 and the single remaining aircraft hasn't flown since it was delivered to the US Air Force Museum in Dayton, Ohio in 1969, and has only been moved from one corner of the museum to another. And it certainly couldn't land in some backwoods landing strip in eastern Europe, let alone get refueled, serviced and take off again for a return trip to the USA.
I've said on previous threads that, contrary to the real Walter O'Brien's claims, no validated, statistically-normed IQ test currently in use yields a score above 160 or has been in the last 50 years. (Most of my military service has been in the reserve components, and in my civilian career, I was a psychologist, now also retired in that field, and made my living administering IQ tests.) Any person claiming a specific IQ score number above 160 is full of sh!t, and that includes Walter O'Brien who claims one of 197. If Walter O'Brien, who maintains the title of Executive Producer of this series, had an IQ anywhere a fraction as close toward the right end of the bell curve from the mean, he would have figured a way to come up with a more realistic, plausible plot than the idiotic drivel the writers produced in his name.
Wow that was a wealth of awesome and not known by me information from you! There's nothing to say other than these 2 things: I agree with you (how could I not) and thank you for your service.
shareSome shows do strive for accuracy when needed, but for the type of story writing here as well as the type of fan base this kind of show draws, it's just not necessary. The writers are just going to go with whatever fits the story. This just isn't a big deal. This show isn't really that good anyways, and certainly not worth getting your panties in a wad over.
Wolf
"I Drank What?!" - Socrates
but for the type of story writing here
I assume you refer to the slipshod school of story construction.
Read my comments again, I never said I "preferred" anything and in fact said that this show wasn't very good, so if I "prefer" anything, it would be the opposite of "slipshod" writing.
It requires no more intelligence than an average eight-year-old to repeat someone else's word tricks such as the cliché about "assume".
I apologize if that insults eight-year-olds, I know there are very many smart ones.
Sounds like a good drinking game. I like the show, but its nowhere near accurate, people know it but like the characters and the completely over the top situations.
shareAgreed. The writers playing the absurd scenarios with a straight face so that we viewers are unsure if they are in on the joke or not is half of what makes this show enjoyable.
I poke fun at this show a lot but I'll be sad when it's gone.
"... your reality challenged husband."
"I prefer fantasy augmented."
And then restarting the engines after the reboot and pulling out of a 90 degree dive, so she can go on her merry way back to home base? ON WHAT FUEL???
I just watched this and she pulled out of her dive with no fuel and the plan was to glide to a smooth/crash landing in the LA river which I'm assuming is almost always dry.
They have used cartoon physics before. Remember when Walter jumped off the train platform and grabbed something on a train going 90 mph. Should be on Ninja Warriors.
shareActually, I think you're thinking of Bugs and the Gremlin in 'Falling Hare' and it's the Gremlin who apologises, saying, "Sorry, folks. We ran out of gas." Bugs adds, "Yeah, you know how it is with these A cards." (A cards were a gas (petrol) rationing card that entitled you to minimal "Is this trip really necessary?" gas.)
It's one of the few times someone manages to put it over Bugs so for those interested, here's a link to a synopsis of the cartoon, which also explains some things that we 'modern folk' aren't likely to get:
http://looneytunes.wikia.com/wiki/Falling_Hare
We haven't had any season three episodes over here, I don't think. I'll be watching with interest to see what happens with the plane.
Close enough for government work!
shareThe LA River is never dry, certainly not near the coast. I even saw a Crane (or some long-legged bird) on the LA River in Burbank in September a couple of years ago. I also saw people fishing in the LA River somewhere South (approximately) of Griffith Park.
shareI wasn't sure. Isn't the LA river more of a drainage "ditch" and its where in movies there is always drag racing like in Grease or maybe a chase scene from Terminator II.
Like in this page. https://nextcity.org/daily/entry/los-angeles-river-water-restoration-impact
The area you are describing is a little north of downtown Los Angeles near Dodger Stadium. Yes, that does seem to be dry often. Yet a few miles south of there I was surprised by the amount of water flowing. It was a couple of years ago in September and the draught had already had its affect.
A couple of years ago for my birthday I rode my bicycle to the Los Angeles River bike path in Burbank. I was surprised to see the long-legged bird. There was plenty of water. Further south is where I saw people fishing.
So I an mot sure why it is so dry in that area, which is between those areas where I saw plenty of water.
I just watched this and she pulled out of her dive with no fuel and the plan was to glide to a smooth/crash landing in the LA river which I'm assuming is almost always dry.
What they showed was the flames from both engines in afterburner as the plane pulled out of the dive.
As a fellow former USAF F-4 WSO and EWO, I concur.
shareThank you, sir. I believe everything you say and am confident you are totally accurate.
I have been saying nearly from the beginning that if this show is intended to show how smart the real Walter O'Brien is then it is a huge failure. I don't know what is going on here. I can think of various conspiracy theory things. The writers and producers are making very little effort to be accurate. They are not even trying. It seems to me that this show is essential proof that Walter O'Brien is a myth.
One problem is that they are giving the world an impression of what smart people are like and make it seem as if it is based on a real genius yet the writers obviously are making no effort whatsoever to be accurate. They give the impression that the truly intelligent solve problems like they do in the show. I don't doubt that intelligent people have very emotional discussions but I doubt that this show is representative. I wish the show were to show healthier and more productive ways to solve problems.
No, the show can't even get one thing right. They don't even try.
Sigh