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Dr. Strange Mid-Credit (Spoiler)


So basically, Dr. Strange will have the role to this movie. To help Thor finding Ordin and Loki for going back to Asgard to defeat Hela ? Am I right ?

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The last time we saw Thor was in Age of Ultron. At that time there was no indication that he knew Loki was alive.

As this is merely a credit scene in Doctor Strange, it'll be brief, so I don't know how they'll explain the - "Loki's alive, we aren't sure if you're Dad is dead or alive, or where he could be. Oh and Loki's on the throne."

Also why would he need Doctor Strange, why can't Heimdall see Odin?

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My theory is that Hela has had Odin trapped in Hel all along, Loki perhaps made some kind of agreement with her in the background during the events of TDW where she could keep Odin's soul if he could rule Asgard masquerading as Odin. But then Hela betrayed Loki and took control of Asgard from him by force, whilst banishing a weakened Odin to earth and removing his memories of who he is for her own amusement. Thor then arrives in Asgard following the events of AoU and finds Hela on the throne and his father missing and drags a not-dead Loki back to earth in an effort to find Odin which is where the Doctor Strange mid-credits scene comes in.

As for Heimdall, maybe Hela has him imprisoned. Remember in Thor's vision during AoU, Heimdall has somehow been blinded which may be a hint as to what's going to happen to him in Ragnarok.

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My theory is that Hela has had Odin trapped in Hel all along, Loki perhaps made some kind of agreement with her in the background during the events of TDW where she could keep Odin's soul if he could rule Asgard masquerading as Odin. But then Hela betrayed Loki and took control of Asgard from him by force, whilst banishing a weakened Odin to earth and removing his memories of who he is for her own amusement. Thor then arrives in Asgard following the events of AoU and finds Hela on the throne and his father missing and drags a not-dead Loki back to earth in an effort to find Odin which is where the Doctor Strange mid-credits scene comes in.

As for Heimdall, maybe Hela has him imprisoned. Remember in Thor's vision during AoU, Heimdall has somehow been blinded which may be a hint as to what's going to happen to him in Ragnarok.

I could also see that being the case. Then later, Hela, with help from Skurge and her other minions, overpowers the gang and hands Thor and The Hulk over to the Grandmaster, while she leaves Odin stranded and imprisons Loki and Heimdall. Valkyrie, Sif, and the Warriors Three would be the keys to undoing Hela's plan.

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I could also see that being the case. Then later, Hela, with help from Skurge and her other minions, overpowers the gang and hands Thor and The Hulk over to the Grandmaster, while she leaves Odin stranded and imprisons Loki and Heimdall. Valkyrie, Sif, and the Warriors Three would be the keys to undoing Hela's plan.


Sounds good. I hope we see Hela and Loki working together in some capacity in the movie because I really do love interaction between them in the comics. Loki is always, well... just being typical diabolical Loki and Hela is always permanently exasperated at him, it's a fun dynamic.

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In Age of Ultron, Thor has a vision of Heimdall, who claims to be dead. That's a possible explanation.

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Good to know. That'd be interesting.

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I'm wondering if this is where Hulk comes in.

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Speaking of which, with Strange, Hulk, and Valkyrie appearing in the same movie, thia might be the closeat we will get to a Defenders movie with some of the original members.

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I didn't like how much that scene jumped ahead. Last we saw, Thor thought Loki was dead and didn't know he was pretending to be Odin, ruling over Asgard. It's not the same as the ant-man credit seen with Cap an Winter Soldier that would be in Civil War where it pretty logically flows.

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In all likelihood, this is an early version of the same scene that will take place in Thor 3, instead of a scene specifically for Doctor Strange mid-credit teaser. Basically, the same thing they did with Ant-Man's mid-credit scene ... they took a scene straight out of Civil War.

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I can see this. Sometime in the movie Thor finds out about Loki and forces him to tell him where Odin is.

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