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I don't know why people hate the season 2 ending???

posted 9 years ago by giangcannesoscarmath
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I think it is brilliant. This season finale makes the series become more thought-provoking and haunting than any series on TV now! If the series solved every misteries of the case, I don't think it would haunt me and make me think about it that much (maybe I will forget it just after one day)!

And if you are disapointed because of the season finale, I think you completely don't understand the spirit of the series. From the begining of the series, it never tries to explain and give us a clear answer, it is not a series that tries to solve the misteries and who is at fault. It's a series about how people are affected by a terrible crime and it's a character study series- explore the characters in a naunced and heart- breaking look. That makes the series different and become one of the best series on television.

This is just my opinion. You may disagree or agree but I hope to discuss with you more about the finale and the series.

[–] rosenkranz_4 9 years ago

I liked it. It was just like season 1. Not everything is wrapped up in a bow in life.

[–] giangcannesoscarmath 9 years ago

Thank you. I agree with you!
I understand the disapointment with the finale. It didn't end like traditional drama. Many people who invest too much into the characters will feel cheated.
But I think that is just a temporary reaction. After a longer time, people will really see why this finale is great and how it haunts and impacts you so much!

[–] jabell 9 years ago

I disagree. Suppose Hamlet had ended before the duel between Hamlet & Laertes. We know one sword is poisoned and we know there is poison in the cup. But what happens then? What of Young Fortinbras, who is on his way? Can you imagine Hamlet without an ending?

Suppose Romeo & Juliet had ended with Romeo coming to the tomb and finding Juliet. What if he had not taken the poison right away and she would have awakened? What if Friar Lawrence had managed to get there before Romeo took the poison? Would you like to see it unresolved?

Suppose Macbeth ends as Macduff is advancing but before the battle.

Suppose Sleepless in Seattle ends before Meg Ryan gets to the top of the Empire State Building?

Suppose The Usual Suspects ends with Verbal Kint being released but before the cop realizes that everything has been fabricated.

Stories Need Endings! I at least would have wanted to know what really happened at the party. I thought there might have been a (please forgive the wording, but it's the best way that I know of to express this) "gang bang," and other boys beside Eric might have raped him.

Boo Hoo! Let me wipe away the tears with my PLASTIC hand!--Lindsey McDonald (Angel)

[–] maryrosenkranz 9 years ago

Well, see what you expect comes from what you were getting out of the story line. For me it was almost psychological-type of story line. People's actions affect others, not just them. But I also watched the first season & pretty much knew , we were never going to know the who? It basically was just the catalyst.

[–] boxerrebellion 9 years ago

First, real life is much like this... often we don't know the 'ending'... among other things because something else takes over the news cycle.

Second, SiS would have been improved had it ended about 30 seconds after it started. The original was very much better and the remake was unnecessary.

[–] Pankra001 9 years ago

What made no sense at all to me was why Taylor would want a plea deal, when he had a much better chance with a trial. Yes, I know he expressed his reasons, but I didn't find this realistic. Our most basic instinct is to protect ourselves, not throw ourselves into the fire. Especially at his age.

[–] jarn2004 9 years ago

well, his reasoning is pretty dumb because I dont even think he needed Eric to testify for him. The cops already know that Wes and Eric beat him up. They have Erics txt to "meet him". It was bad writing that they needed a reason for Taylor to take a plea deal.

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[–] genehoke-1 9 years ago

The ending was perfect. This isn't a plot driven show. It's not about solving the mystery. It's about how the ripple effects of a crime can destroy lives and communities, and it encourages us to consider how race, class, and so many other factors play into a character's fate. Life doesn't wrap things up for us all the time, and so neither does this show. It leaves me really wanting to think, which is about the best thing I can say about any work of art.

[–] giangcannesoscarmath 9 years ago

Beautiful said!!!

[–] allpoliticiansareevil 9 years ago

Oh course it is a plot driven show, s much, if not more, than any show.

There wasn't an ending to the show, they just ran out of time, and that is bad storytelling

[–] Casey999 8 years ago

The first season had a truly devastating ending.
This season ended with a cliffhanger that will never be resolved.

Last year I knew it was over. Because I put off watching the ending for 3 months, I actually thought someone had deleted the last episode (thus my trip to IMDB).

It's one thing not to wrap up everything. It's quite another to not write a conclusion for the main arc.

We don't know if he copped a plea. If he didn't, we don't know what happened in court, since Eric may have gotten in the car and never been seen again.

I can live with not knowing what Terri did, but not wrapping up Eric and Taylor is poor story telling.

[–] viperaberus 9 years ago

I am okay with the ending, even if I would have preferred an ending where we would watch what actually happened and then we could not decide who had the truth. That would be brilliant.

The problem I see with this ending is that it denies our commitment and love for the characters and becomes a statement. Which is fine. It is a choice with its value.

[–] aikah-344-481062 9 years ago

There was no ending, the season just stopped. It could have stopped half way it would have been the same thing. The writing lacked focus, too many race war tropes and clichés. It was so weak I'd be glad the show was cancel.

[–] giangcannesoscarmath 9 years ago

Ok, you hate the ending, I understand and respect your opinion. But I completely hate the kind of attitude that "It was so weak I'd be glad the show was cancelled". Fine, you don't like it, just don't watch it. Why do you have to hope that the show would be cancelled? A lot of people like it and want a new season (simply because it is still better than 90% of what so called series on TV), so please, stop that kind of nasty and terrible attitude!

[–] SPUNKY15 9 years ago

ABC is very found of the show. Don't worry Oscarmath, the show was renewed for season three, after about episode 4, which surprised some, because the ratings were way down from last year and the ratings were not that great last year.

[–] giangcannesoscarmath 9 years ago

I wish what you said was true but the show hasn't been renewed for season 3 yet!!!

[–] doLLish 9 years ago

Its hilarious to me how some people are falling all over themselves to make excuses for the finale just so they can appear to "get it".

"Its not plot driven." "Life doesn't always wrap things up neatly." "It forces you to think." "Its not about the story its about the affect."

PLEASE.

The show was great for maybe four episodes max, including the episode where the shooting occurred. It sputtered all the way to the finish and died.

There were several storylines that were just left, hanging. They managed to wrap the school administration one (Graham fired, new principal hired) in a "neat little bow" but no one mentions that because it doesn't fit the, "they want you to think" agenda. Becca's storyline as well. Something major was clearly about to happen to Taylor. Some decision would have been made one way or the other. Him taking the plea deal or not would have been a better end. That would have given the viewers something to think on. If he took it, his life behind bars and what happens after. If he didn't, what would have come of a jury trial. And Eric...what was that? Seriously? SMH. And never any hint of what really happened at that party. We should just make it up in our minds.

The finale was lazy, period. It doesn't feel smart, or edgy. Like someone said it just feels like they ran out of time. The show and the viewers deserved better.

And what was even the point of the LaCroix's? Kevin suggested that his teammates beat up Taylor which lead to the shooting? To show that black people can be 'uppity'? Was that why they had major screen time the entire season?

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[–] giangcannesoscarmath 9 years ago

Some of the greatest endings in films and series (even novels) are actually extremely ambiguous and open but I don't see anyone think that the shows or the films are lazy or the writters ran out of idea or time!!! (except some people with terrible taste in films).

Maybe you just watch too much series with the same formula that every characters must have closure so when it comes to something totally different like American Crime, you must be extremely angry.

Like what John Ridley said, this series is like a small novel, so the characters "are going to live beyond the last page". Nearly every different endings (even the kind of ending like what you said) make the show cheaper and worse. People could wonder for some seconds (what happened to Taylor behind the bar or blah blah...) but it's done, we both know what Taylor would do next, it's done. And then, we could easily forget the show with that kind of ending.

[–] boxerrebellion 9 years ago

Look, you have your idea of what 'drama' should be. Good on you. Not every one agrees... but to state that people would think more if they were spoon fed the answer is pure fantasy. Fans were obviously split as to which 'he' they believe. That's all we really have; and that's all juries often have in a situation like this... and eye witnesses can be VERY unreliable. We all see life from our own perspective and Eric and Taylor are no exception. Personally, I think it would all hinge on whether Taylor was in fact slipped something (whether in alcohol or not). Many people on the board have stated that alcohol does not remove the possibility of consent, but guess what... in Virginia that's EXACTLY what it is... if a female (don't know if that has been updated to be 'anyone') has had ANY alcohol, they are by law incapable of giving consent to sex. Period. It was a very sexist law, meant to 'protect' the 'weaker sex' - and basically a way to make us think that we need such protection.

[–] maryrosenkranz 9 years ago

Ok-you didn't like the series. I respect your opinion. How about doing the same for those who did like it. We're not telling you must like it. We all do not have the same likes & dislikes. For all you do to say we are falling all over ourselves, what do you think just did? Falling all over yourself to try & prove we're wrong about how we FEEL about something. Why the need to get all out of joint because some of us liked something you did not?

[–] fede_4488 9 years ago

Its hilarious to me how some people are falling all over themselves to make excuses for the finale just so they can appear to "get it"

Nah, you're just stupid but you want to convince yourself you're not.

If I don't reply, you're most likely on my ignore list

[–] blindvias-071407 9 years ago

A lot of viewers want to see a definite resolution to storylines. However, I agree with you. I thought the finale was good.

[–] giangcannesoscarmath 9 years ago

Thank you!!!

[–] maestro7PL 9 years ago

The ending of this series was NOT satisfying. For those who saw the finale of Season One--same problem! Season One dealt with the fallout of a racially motivated murder. By the end of this long-winded series, the writers did not divulge who did the murder! Seriously?

In Season 2's ending, we NEVER know if Eric raped Taylor, or, as the mobile "sexting" revealed, the boys planned to meet and have sex at the party, and it was revealed that Taylor liked "rough sex."

Furthermore, Coach Dan did not get his comeuppance. True that his daughter went to jail for selling drugs, but the writers let Dan off way too easily. He is the one who could have made a difference and prevented all the horrible acts that followed, including the murder of the jock guy, if he had had a talk with the team to take responsibility as "men', rather than cover up the whole alleged rape at the party. His wife--played by Hope Davis in an all too brief role--tried to get him to take some responsibility, but he refused. He certainly should have been fired, along with Leslie. Speaking of Leslie, Felicity Huffman once again played a thoroughly hateful character unsympathetically, just as she did in her wife and mother in Season One. She was not likable in "Desperate Housewives" either. I am beginning to see her as an actress with very limited acting range. When will she ever play a nice person for a change?

I don't think you should take loyal viewers on a long ride in a serial series like "American Crime" and then in the end, just "throw the balls in the air" and see there they land. Count me definitely OUT for Season 3. Very disappointed!!!!!

[–] genehoke-1 9 years ago

I don't think you should take loyal viewers on a long ride in a serial series like "American Crime" and then in the end, just "throw the balls in the air" and see there they land. Count me definitely OUT for Season 3. Very disappointed!!!!!

Well then, you simply aren't the target audience for this show, and that's fine. No need to be upset about it. It's just a TV show. I would have thought that the ending of Season 1 would have clued you in that this probably isn't the kind of show that interests you. For the record, I loved the ending to Season 1 as well.

And in response to a previous poster: no one here is "falling all over themselves" claiming to "get" anything. I just so happen to love the way the show ended, and I feel the type of ending in which we find out the "answers" would have been cheap and unsuitable for this season. This series strives to ask questions, not answer them. Portraying one character as "right" and another character as "wrong" robs the viewer of the ability to empathize with them. The writers are not presenting easy answers, because there are none. They want to encourage discussion. When you tell your audience what to think, who was right, and who was wrong, you discourage discussion.

Again, this show is not about what actually happened or didn't happen (it's not plot-driven), and you shouldn't necessarily expect every character deserving of a comeuppance to get one. There are plenty of TV shows that follow the exact formula of good guys/bad guys/everyone gets what they deserve in the end. This just isn't one of those shows. Might I suggest you change the channel if this kind of storytelling doesn't interest you. There are some of us out here who are in fact enthralled by it.

[–] bueandre 9 years ago

I dont think the ending was as mysterious as some people believe. The final words we hear are "do you accept, or do you reject?". The camera is looking at Eric.. does he reject walking into that car? It does seem like it. And I think that decision also reflects Taylor's decision in court. I think it was a metaphor.

[–] blindvias-071407 9 years ago

It was also powerful television.