Theater Owners Blast Disney for Making ‘Black Widow’ Available Immediately on Streaming
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Through Sunday, Black Widow’s global box office total was $264 million and more than $324 million including revenue from Disney+ Premier Access.
Stop spreading lies, roku, Amazon, apple take a percentage of in app purchases
shareThat is different. Disney+ is completely owned by Disney.
sharethey don't own apple, google , roku , amazon . you can't sell on their devices without them getting a cut. its much smaller than what theaters get , but Disney can not keep 100% of that money. it they order thru web browser Disney gets 100% , but how many people do that , most use apps
shareActually I don't think so. That depends on whether you use Google or Apple billing libraries and collect money through them. Streaming giants have their own billing services and directly charge their customers, so they are not paying mobile platforms.
shareyou are wrong, doesn't matter who you are billed thru
shareStop Lying! That $60m is Disney+. It's not on Amazon!
sharestop spreading lies, you can't sell on another platform and not expect those companies to not take a cut, DISNEY DOES NOT GET 100%. Amazon get a percentage of 60m 😊 these are the facts, and disney fanboys can not deny
sharewhat darkpast is saying is that Amazon may get a cut as part of the deal they have to show Disney plus on the Amazon Firestick.
Disney made a deal with Amazon to allow Disney+ to be on the Firestick. They may have also made a separate deal to get extra from each purchase of Black Widow.
This seems very wrong. Amazon should pay Disney for providing content for their product which would be completely redundant without said content. People can use other means to access Disney+, but if Firestick doesn't support it, that would mean I would not buy a Firestick.
shareOn the other hand, Premiere access is a one-time fee that let's you watch it as many times as you want, so no going to the theater for the second showing. If your friends want to see it, they can come over and watch it at your place. I think the movie has pretty much made all that it is going to make, and it likely won't clear 400B (including premiere access). Given the delays (which cost money) and a bloated worldwide marketing budget, it will probably lose money
It probably won't make money on box office, then again there is DVD, bluray, streaming, etc. Overall it probably will break even or make a small profit.
shareBreak even is losing money, and the DVD/Blueray/Streaming will be substantially lower because of premiere access. So using traditional metrics, the movie will almost certainly be a loss, but Disney has the plus membership base that will allow them to absorb it. Amazon and Netflix don't rely on theater sales for their original movies.
And for5every dollar it makes in the theater 50c goes to the theater owners and 50c to Disney. Where as on Disney plus it all goes to Disney so you can see why they were so keen to release it on streaming. I'd do the same. I think we are starting to see the end of the old movie distribution model just like we did with music.
shareYeah, I think shifting from cinema, DVD and bluray to streaming is the current trend.
shareThe price-gouging at the theater makes this a pretty easy choice for the consumer too. At my local theater adult tickets cost $13.69 and children $10.69. A large popcorn and soda costs $14.59! A family of four can easily drop $100 to see a movie in a theater.
Or... you could walk in to Best Buy and buy an 82" 4K TV for $1300.
Home theaters are getting bigger, better, and cheaper while traditional movie theaters become more expensive.
You don't have to buy the concession items !
One of my first rude questions is -- How Much Do You Weigh ?!?
Can you not sit through a movie that's 2 hours or less w/o noshing ?
And I saw a Matinee showing the other day for 6 bucks and a first run movie.
The experience isn't the same
shareI'm just trying to imagine them going full streaming, not much to be made on streaming though if it's only $60m even if they earn 100% profits since they own it. I'm just thinking of all the loses they could've made from all the free streams/downloads from it. Basically someone paying $35 for HD access for millions of free views. This is why I said they should structure it to go to stream in between Bluray release. Theater on day 1, stream 1.5-2 months after, 3-4 months is Bluray release. I mean, why waste fuel and pay at the theater when you can watch at the comfort of your own home on your own home theater?
I do like streaming to be honest since I don't have to listen to retards fumbling their chips or people kicking your seat behind you or people talking while the movie is going on. Mind you the first 2 has been mostly mitigated since the theater seating have been spaced apart due to COVID (remember when they said COVID is airborne aerosol and that theaters use aircon?). I still do enjoy the theater experience though since I don't have a 100+" projector screen or huge 7.1 surround sound setup at home or vibrator seats to jiggle the balls while moving at the same time.
But you can hit "pause" to go to bathroom, and much cheaper snacks.
shareGo to the bathroom before the movie. Don't buy a drink larger than half a liter (the size of your bladder) and bring your snacks from home.
While I typed that last thing, I realised that in some countries you aren't even allowed to bring your own snacks.
I'd just stuff a bag of M&Ms in my pocket but that's me.
Hey, theater owners, if you want people to come to the theaters don't charge so much for movies and refreshments!!!
sharestreaming at home is the future.
shareThis movie just showed that its not. Tandem releases are not going to last, unless its a shit movie they don't have faith in. Pandemic rules won't always apply.
shareI hope not, and I see no evidence that that is the case, but never underestimate how stupid and lazy the average person can be. You may well be right, and movie theaters will become a thing of the past.
shareIt is too bad if streaming services lead to the demise of movie theaters. I have always believed that there are some movies that NEED to be seen on a theater screen. I saw Jaws in 1975 on a big screen. It loses something on the TV screen. I know that home theater is becoming a big thing now, and for some that probably will suffice.
But epic films need a big showcase the first time you see it.
Hopefully competition will help improving the service and attitudes of movie theaters.
shareThey are blaming the streaming model as the problem for low ticket sales. They will go back to theater exclusive premiers for sure for blockbusters.
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