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Question about poissoned cofee(spoilers)


Did Oswaldo a.k.a Pete Hicox and Bob a.k.a arco knew that Gage poissoned the cofee? We know that Daisy was the only one that saw him doing it, but i don''t think that Gage would risk the lives of his own gang partners/friends,they coould drink that cofee themsellves, before Ruth even touched it, seeing how loyal they all are to each other, therefore, i believe that they did knew..

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The gang members must have known.

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On the one hand, the gang members had to have known but on the other hand...

...when we see that long flashback scene to their first arrival at Minnie's Haberdashery and the gangleader played by Channing Tatum leads the murder of everyone save Bruce Dern -- Tatum then lays out an entire plan of action to the rest of the gang and -- NEVER discusses about the coffee being poisoned.

I've seen The Hateful Eight about four times and it was only around number four that I found that to be somewhat of a ...wait for it...PLOT HOLE!

He tells the gang they will have to be careful, and wait for the right moment to kill Kurt Russell without getting Jennifer Jason Leigh killed but...you think he would have said "So let's hope for that poisoned coffee to take out Kurt Russell first."

The Hateful Eight is one of my favorite Tarantino movies -- for its great LOOK perhaps above all, but also for the cast and the opening credit sequence with "snowy Jesus" -- BUT the script does seem lazy and not correctly plotted at times.

But I might be wrong on this one. Maybe Channing Tatum didn't need to discuss the poisoning of the coffee with his gang.

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Yeah there’s no need for Tatum to mention the coffee. It may well have been an improvised tactic.

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Yeah there’s no need for Tatum to mention the coffee. It may well have been an improvised tactic.

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I will take that point but..a rather DANGEROUS improvised tactic -- what if one of the gang drank the coffee first?

I suppose if it was improvised, something transpired that we weren't shown...the guy with the poison went from gang member to gang member saying "I've got some poison here, I'm going to poison the coffee. Don't drink it."

Daisy clearly saw the poison being poured...did she know IN ADVANCE that was the plan?

Because she sure as hell panicked when Russell connected her to him with a handcuff:

Daisy: No no no no no NO!
Russell: Yes yes yes yes YES!

By the way, I think that "effedts of the poisoning scene" was great and well written: by having JB drink the coffee TOO and start dying TOO...that alerted Russell that the coffee HAD been poisoned,, so he could warn Walton Goggins before he took HIS sip. Sam Jackson noted that later to Goggins: "The last thing that man did before dying was to warn you and save your life."

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I'm guessing the gang members all discussed it quietly while John and Marcus discussed their deal at the bar.

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More than likely..but, i guess, it shouldn''t matter..the whole point was to have a who done it mystery..if Tarantino,f or example, said in naration that the other guys knew it, it would be revealed imediately that: a) he poissoned the cofee b) that two of them are also in cahoots with him and Daisy

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