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Is anyone supposed to be the protagonist?


Let's count them:

1) Daisy: Murderous.
2) Ruth: Abusive.
3) Warren: Rapist.
4) Jody/Bob (which one is Hateful?): Murderous.
5) The General: Racist.
6) Mobray: Liar and murderer.
7) Mannix: Racist (at least at first)
8) Gage: Poisonous.

We lacked someone to root for, or what? Seems to me that all of these deserved to die. But was it meant to be that way, or were we supposed to feel sympathy for any of these?

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Well they are the HATEFUL eight

but why should any of these crimes exempt anyone from being a protagonist

lots of films have people who are basically evil in them


- who do you want? Shirley Temple ???

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No, someone to root for.

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well Daisy is very hardly done by in diegetic universe of the story by the other characters, by the director and by online fandom ... way out of proportion to anything we see she does on screen. She could do with friends and fans I think

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Ruth and Warren, and eventually Mannix.

I guess we can say that Ruth was abusive, but I had the impression that it was no easy task to capture Demague, considering the three dead bodies stored on the coach. Otherwise, at least according to the film, he was unique as a bounty hunter in that he always preferred to bring in his bounties alive.

Warren also wasn't that bad, and I assume that his rape of the general's son was a complete fabrication given the way he was recounting the story. It's also worth noting that the general had more guilt than just being a racist, since he had executed black POWs during the war, which is why Warren wanted to kill him.

Other than the stage coach driver and the people murdered at Minnie's earlier that day, Mannix was probably the least malevolent of the main characters. People are more sensitive about racism than at any point of human history, and perhaps even overly sensitive if we want to lump him in with murderers (especially since just about every other character seemed to be racist to some extent).

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Arguably, the closest one of the eight that could conceivably be a "protagonist" is Major Warren because he's the smartest man in the room and the man who has fought the hardest in life (from a plantation to a Union officer to a skillful bounty hunter with detective like intuition) to get to the place he's at. But he's still just as much a bastard as Chris Mannix or Daisy Domergue because of his sadistic recounting of the possibility of how Gen. Smithers' son died (I don't think it's fair to categorize Major Warren as a rapist because he only claims he made Chester Smithers suck him off for a blanket when five minutes earlier, he's revealed as a phony regarding his Lincoln Letter; at best (and worst), he's a manipulative liar) and his almost trigger-happy behavior towards the members of the Domergue Gang.

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Well, protagonist and someone to root for are not the same thing. The protagonist is the leading character. Whether you like him or not is irrelevant.

Seize the moment, 'cause tomorrow you might be dead.

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A protagonist is the 'hero' or 'good guy' in a play, movie, book etc., as opposed to antagonist.

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No. a protagonist is the main character of a story. It can be a hero or villain. The antagonist is the person against him. Could also be a hero or villain.

A protagonist doesn't not equal good guy.

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