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Everything that Tom does which Reacher would never do

posted 8 years ago by fukingcrasy
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1. Nearing the end, sitting in the middle of a diner with his back to half of the people in there. Reacher always sits at the back of a room where he can see everything that's going on in the room.

2. Be a stunt car driver. Reacher is not a good driver.

3. Run around all the time. Reacher is a slow runner, which fundamentally affects his tactics. He normally stands and fights.

4. (From the first movie) drop the gun just to get into a fair fist fight with the villain. Reacher always does what avoids action movie cliché, he would just shoot the guy without even a one-liner.

(Feel free to chip in)

[–] Beauq81 8 years ago

Miss out on a chance to get laid (Tom did in both movies, Reacher didn't in both books).

Fighting a religious war is like fighting over whose imaginary friend is better.

[–] fukingcrasy 8 years ago

Good point!

[–] fluffset 8 years ago

they do add it in the script but both actress (Pike & Smulders) refused to do Tom.

THRILLER IS MY FOOD!

[–] Carlito_Negro 8 years ago

Can't blame them for that.

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[–] Chef_Brian 8 years ago

Are you just saying that or is that true cause lol if it is

[–] jochebrown 8 years ago

He would never get manhandled by a skinny dude.
He wouldn't tell a henchman to throw the gun in the backseat and then walk away. He would had gotten shot right there.
He usually knocks people out and break their hands or arms (if they are alive)
He doesn't run from a fight
He's smart
He doesn't treat friendly people like crap. (Why is he so bitter here?)
I don't know what else, I have no idea why they messed with the character and the story of the book. To me the character in the movie is just a bland and cliche protagonist. Like one of those movies from the 90s with Steven Seagal or something similar.

[–] Beauq81 8 years ago

He doesn't treat friendly people like crap. (Why is he so bitter here?)

Tom Cruise doesn't have enough of a menacing appearance, so they make him act like a d..k to make him look tough.

Fighting a religious war is like fighting over whose imaginary friend is better.

[–] Johanes_Calvi 8 years ago

As someone who hasn't read the books, judging from the two movies alone, Reacher is a pretty generic protagonist. All these things that you and other have mentioned are great character traits that any screenwriter would love to incorporate in order to make a character more dimensional. I wonder why all these character attributes were left out.

[–] Carlito_Negro 8 years ago

The character as described in the books is also 10 inches taller than Tom Cruise and about 50 lbs heavier. To bad they couldn't have gone with someone like Joe Manganiello who is 6' 5".

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[–] k_tomb 8 years ago

Sadly someone 10 inches taller, would not be very believable as an ex military guy, doing what Reacher did. Being in the military myself for several years, most guys are height wise, between 5ft6 and maybe 6 foot tall. Anyone much over 6 foot tall, was extremely rare.

[–] Beauq81 8 years ago

Reacher is described as extremely rare. And, considering his job would be to chase other soldiers, shouldn't he be bigger than the average soldier? 😃

Fighting a religious war is like fighting over whose imaginary friend is better.

[–] ds-dude2222 8 years ago

Are you implying that he would be denied entry to the military based on him being tall? Even if you ignore the fact that military is a kind of family business for him, that seems rather unlikely.

I would have thought it would be more likely for somebody of Cruise' stature to be denied entry than Reacher's.

[–] fukingcrasy 8 years ago

Too much nice clothes too, Reacher normally looks like a homeless person with cheap, disposable clothes. Not leather jackets

[–] jochebrown 8 years ago

There's a book where he spent most of it with some duct tape mask on his face to keep this nose in place, not to mention the swollen lips and the blood all over his shirt. He looked like a mad man walking around town.

[–] travy55 8 years ago

I agree with most of these comments. The books are good BECAUSE of Reacher's idiosyncrasies. It's really disappointing that they've chosen to homogenize such a potentially refreshing protagonist.

Cruise is absolutely the antithesis of everything Reacher embodies.

"You can't eat the orange and throw the peel away, a man is not a piece of fruit."

[–] ds-dude2222 8 years ago

I feel like the fighting style they used for Sherlock in the RDJ movies would have fit fairly well with Jack Reacher. Through the books he always has such a deliberate fighting style, breaking down the situation before making a single move.

[–] OrangeTreeBeer 8 years ago

Be 5 foot 7.

[–] very_strange1 8 years ago

From either movie...
-Blend in. Reacher stands out in a crowd.
-Carry I.D.
-Miss a shot. Or at least, miss as much as Tom does. Reacher is an award winning sharp shooter.
-Talk so much. Reacher is a man of few words.
-Be in busy establishments by choice. Reacher hates crowds.

[–] Beauq81 8 years ago

Actually, Reacher is good at blending in, in spite of his size. Also, he does carry a passport with him.

Fighting a religious war is like fighting over whose imaginary friend is better.

[–] pankoeken 8 years ago

You all missed a HUGE one. Movie Reacher talks too much. "Reacher said nothing" is the most oft repeated phrase in the novels.

[–] UltraBaron7 8 years ago

I'm thinking "Stone Cold" Steve Austin could be good as Reacher.

Cruise is barely above midget territory and thus unfit for the role.

[–] Dave (18) 7 years ago

In the fight scene in the restaurant kitchen I had to explain to my wife that the real Jack Reacher wouldn't have lost that fight to a single combatant like that.

Then later, in true Jack Reacher style, he quickly dispatched three or four combatant with his trademark single punch to the chest or elbow to the throat.

The only way that Tom Cruise can be a Jack Reacher is when movies are made in bizzaro world. And Lee Child's ho-hum attitude about such a horrible mis-cast is offensive to his dedicated readers. It's a shame.