cancelled by netflix - Luke Cage (2016) Discussion

[–] horrorfan000 (2332) 6 years ago

I wonder if Jessica Jones is next after that horrible second season.

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[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

Nope. Apparently, Season 3 is already in production. Yeesh.

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[–] DarthRoger (867) 6 years ago

And that I can't understand at all.

Jessica Jones 2nd season really sucked. I found Luke Cage's 2nd season to be boring and I haven't watched the new season of Iron Fist yet. Still, Danny Rand's character improved greatly in The Defenders.

An online article at screenrant.com states that both Luke Cage and Iron Fist experienced a 2/3rd's drop in viewership in their 2nd season. That will get any show cancelled, except the continuing awful Agents of Shield. How that POS is still on the air is beyond me.

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[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

That is a bloody crime. Netflix is becoming the Google of the streaming world, cancelling some good series while continuing to finance and produce lots of sub-standard, mediocre movies.

I didn't have high expectations of this series when it first started, but I've since become a big fan. They had some great ideas for Season 3 too.

I wonder if Disney will pick it up for their streaming service?

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[–] billbrown7071 (3195) 6 years ago

That is a bloody crime. Netflix is becoming the Google of the streaming world, cancelling some good series while continuing to finance and produce lots of sub-standard, mediocre movies.

^^^

Disagree...

Luke Cage and Iron Fist just weren't that good....

I loved Season 1 and 2 of Daredevil, Loved Season 1 of Jessica Jones....

But for me, The Quality of every season since has just been Average to bad...

Jessica Jones season 2 was one of the worst shows I've ever made it through...It took me nearly 2 months to suffer through that show, and I was more excited for it than any season on Netflix....

I found both season 1 of Luke Cage and Iron Fist completely average...

The Defenders was good but not nearly as great as people were hoping....

I'm currently right now trying to get through Luke Cage and Iron Fist Season 2 and The Punisher....In all 3 series I'm around Episode 5 and I just cant get motivated to keep watching...

If You love These series, More power to you, But It seem to me the consensus is, Pretty much all of the seasons in the last 2 years have been disappointing or at the very least no where near the quality of Daredevil and Jessica Jones Season 1, the first 2 shows that got everyone excited!

simply put, Netflix is spending over 8 Billion a year making shows and movies, they are throwing money around like its nothing and Green lighting Absurd Projects....If The Numbers/Views for Luke Cage and Iron Fist were there...Netflix would renews at the drop of a dime....

Its Just Netflix has to be looking at Data the shows people just arent watching them and dont like these 2 shows like Daredevil and Jessica Jones...

as for Disney, I would bet My HOUSE they pick up every Netflix Series and continue them for years....Disney is going into this new streaming looking to make a slash, They need Content....My Bet is They continue all The Netflix shows plus had 5 more, Maybe Moonnight, Ghost Rider, Blade and so on...

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[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

Well, we both agree that the 2nd season of Jessica Jones was a slog to get through. I can't speak to Iron Fist. I wasn't familiar with the character from my comic days and the initial tepid reviews for the series didn't inspire me to watch it.

All I can recommend is that you see Luke Cage to the end... it definitely got better for me. But see my further comments.

The problem I see with both Jones and Cage is that they are the least interesting characters in their own series. They both are strictly one-note characters. Cage is the boy scout. Jones is the self-loathing broken one. The most interesting people are the villains and the supporting characters. In Season 1 of Jones, I was happiest whenever Killgrave was on screen.

What made Cage -- the series, not the character -- interesting for me was the secondary characters of Alfre Woodard's Mariah Dillard and Theo Rossi's Shades. The series almost evolves into a straight-up drama as we learn about Mariah's past and see Shades develop a semblance of conscience. The writers and actors do a bang up job.

Daredevil was good right out of the blocks because we see DD struggle a la Batman with how far to take his vigilante justice.

The showrunners for Cage were setting up an interesting season 3 where Cage would become the 'king of Harlem' and -- as Two-Face said in The Dark Knight -- if you don't die a hero, eventually you live long enough to become the villain. I was hoping we'd see the bad side of Luke Cage and how his allies and friends would react to that.

I'm hopeful that Disney will continue the series with the same actors and storylines.

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[–] TMC-4 (20279) 6 years ago

Luke Cage's abrupt cancelation begs the question: Is the Marvel TV universe falling apart?

https://www.thewrap.com/is-netflixs-marvel-tv-universe-falling-apart-commentary/

Netflix's decision to cancel Luke Cage on a Friday night was shocking enough, but why do it on the same day it launched the third season of Marvel's Daredevil? "It’s been four months since the second season of Luke Cage came out," says Phil Owen. "Marvel and Netflix have had since June to make a decision about the show, but waited until this exact moment to tell everybody. They could have waited another week. They could have announced it in tandem with the Iron Fist news. Instead they chose to cancel Luke Cage not only on launch day, but at a time in the evening when many people on the East Coast were probably just settling in to watch Daredevil. And that’s not even taking into account that it took less than half that long for Iron Fist to get the axe after its second season." The reported decision that the cancelation was for creative reasons also doesn't make sense, he says, pointing out that Marvel and Netflix have had no qualms with replacing showrunners -- Daredevil and Iron Fist have had six showrunners combined. "Of course," he adds, "Disney/Marvel could just as easily be eyeing a gradual fresh start, especially since the Netflix corner of the Marvel Cinematic Universe has been increasingly distant from the movies. Most notably, Thanos’ finger snap has had no affect on any of the shows that came out after he wiped out half the universe. It wouldn’t be impossible to simply roll out completely new versions of these characters and make like their Netflix versions don’t share the same universe."

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[–] TMC-4 (20279) 6 years ago

http://www.agcwebpages.com/BLINDITEMS/2018/OCT.html

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http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2018/10/blind-item-7_20.html
Unless they are just doing amazing, this money laundering streaming service is going to get rid of every property they can from a certain company. Marvel ("Luke Cage" and "Iron Fist" cancelled)

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[–] howgamer (3967) 6 years ago

Looks like it. Luke Cage and Iron Fist both had really good 2nd seasons so they go ahead and cancel them just doesn't make sense. Maybe they did this just to get the series over to their new streaming service so it would have something to appeal to a more mature audience. I guess we can expect JJ an DD to follow.

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[–] TMC-4 (20279) 6 years ago

Luke Cage's cancelation isn't that disappointing because it wasn't black enough, and its quality suffered in trying to appeal to everybody

https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/evw3x4/luke-cage-wasnt-black-enough-to-be-a-classic

The Netflix version of the Marvel character was specially built not to alienate non-white audiences, says Noel Ransome. Or as Mike Colter put it, he was supposed to be superhero, not a black superhero. "Interestingly enough, it’s that stance that made Luke Cage, the character, the worst part of his own show," says Ransome. "He was the principled, sullen and reluctant vigilante that felt disappointingly wooden. He was the Old Navy mannequin experiencing sentiency through a script. Through season one, his main pathos and character conflicts stood outside of himself; Luke Cage vs. Cottonmouth...Luke Cage Vs. Bushmaster. Beyond that, he was altruistic to the point of feeling stale. Characters Daredevil and Jessica Jones felt comparatively honest because their internal conflicts were real and severely broken in a, I’m-not-trusting-these-fools-with-my-life sort of way. Sure, there was a play Luke's humanity through an animosity driven arc with his father and his anger; but he was still engrained to be a flawless presentation for both white and black viewers; the complete antidote to the negative arguments against black communities as a whole." The Netflix version of Luke Cage, Ransome adds, was a "watered-down Kool-Aid interpretation, dipped in high-fructose corn syrup, with the blandness of an on-duty mall cop. And over the course of two seasons, I noticed the strain of disease Luke Cage was suffering from; the same conundrum TV shows and films designed for black audiences tolerate in a marketable woke culture."

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[–] howgamer (3967) 6 years ago

I agree with your statements, but I'm still disappointed that it was cancelled on Netflix because I thought season 2 was well done. Could it have been better, sure. However, if it is renewed on Disney's service, it's not worth adding another streaming service. Now if JJ and DD get pulled over there, depending on the price, I would probably buy the service.

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