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posted 8 years ago by jacktrojan-79032
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Daredevil: The Marvel/Netflix Original Series needs to be more lurid. The live action T.V. series needs to be more disturbing. The writing needs to mix the stories of the Marvel Comics Daredevil comic book like Daredevil: Born Again, Elektra: Assassin and Daredevil: Father.

The show is good, but it could still be much better if the creators of the series would just stop trying to be so held back and subdued. At the rate that the show is going, there won't be any real connection to what had made the Daredevil comic book so great in the first place to begin with.

This needs to have costumed, super-powered super-villains that push the envelope instead of just being commercially safe. Professional criminals like the Wildboys (such as, for example, Ammo, Jet, Spit, etc.), Bullet, Bullseye, Bushwhacker, and Typhoid Mary.

Maybe they should hire Frank Miller and Ann Nocenti as creative consultants? That ought to help the writers write better scripts. So far the actors, actresses, and directors are all doing a good job, but the executive producers and the producers are not spending enough money on make-up, and special effects. The Computer Generated Images are limited, and even then, the C.G.I.s are very few and far between.

The show is good but way too held back. This is not Marvel's Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. So they should just stop the bullsh-- already and start giving us real fans what we truly want to see instead of worrying about the easily offended, and the extremely squeamish.

It is a show that is suggested for mature audiences only, right? Viewer's discretion is strongly advised, huh?

Well, act like it!

[–] dmcreif 8 years ago

The Computer Generated Images are limited, and even then, the C.G.I.s are very few and far between.

Shows don't need lots of CGI to be effective. This one uses almost none.

It is a show that is suggested for mature audiences only, right? Viewer's discretion is strongly advised, huh?

Oh I can tell you of a lot of things that are the reason the "mature audiences only" thing qualifies, like a hitman crushing a target's head with a bowling ball, said hitman impaling himself on a fence spike, Wilson Fisk killing Anatoly by beating him unconscious then using a car door to decapitate him, the Punisher machine-gunning a room full of Kitchen Irishmen, Finn Cooley using an ice pick to stab an underling in the eye. Do you want more?

[–] jacktrojan-79032 8 years ago

All of that violence in the show is good, but it could still be better. And I know that good make-up and special effects alone don't make a good movie or series, but it does help when it's supposed to be a sci-fi series about a comic book anti-hero who possesses superhuman powers.

The Walking Dead right now, with Negan bashing in the skulls of Glenn and Abraham Ford, finally shows more balls than Daredevil, and that's a shame. The Kingpin should be scarier than Negan is, and yet, for some strange reason, despite the fact that they have shown Wilson Fisk behead a Russian Mafia hitman with a car door, I'm still not feeling like Daredevil has pushed the gratuitous sex and violence factor to the point that it is supposed to. This series is looking more and more like it's just an excuse to just cater to the people who like a lot of drama and nothing else. I like drama, especially crime drama, but this is not a typical cops and crooks, and robbers television series. This is f--king Daredevil! There should far more "out there" elements. Not just boring sh-t like talking for 98% of the script with only 2% of action-adventure, dark, adult fantasy, horror and science-fiction.

Lol! And the most stupid part is that whenever that 2% of Marvel Comics comic book and graphic novel-based, costumed, super-powered super hero-styled and themed stuff is finally shown on the series, people complain that Daredevil is "just way too unrealistic", lol!

So yeah, spare me your attempt at trying to show me what Daredevil has, because I can show you what it doesn't have, and what it should have. To even try to deny that I actually have a good point would only prove that what I'm saying is true.

[–] Norlly 8 years ago

Sorry but I don't think this show needs to be taking any notes from The Walking Dead. Between Jessica Jones and DD you didn't get enough violence? A camera shot through a giant bullet wound, "and where is this son of bitch's arm", a DA shot like 6 times through the back, The Cartel hung on *beep* MEAT HOOKS, a guy taking a power drill through the foot, guy impaled with a sharpened broomstick, guy's neck ripped open by a shiv, guy pistol whipped 5 times and executed point blank, a Yakuza kid getting his neck slit wide open, a child (Elektra) murdering a guy, human beings being systematically drained of their blood, Stick decapitating a mofo, a kid killing his Dad with a scalpel & a goddamn arm in a garbage disposale.

And I can't even remember the others from JJ. Show me a popular streaming series that pushes the envelope further.

[–] Norlly 8 years ago

Sorry but I don't think this show needs to be taking any notes from The Walking Dead. Between Jessica Jones and DD you didn't get enough violence? A camera shot through a giant bullet wound, "and where is this son of bitch's arm", a DA shot like 6 times through the back, The Cartel hung on *beep* MEAT HOOKS, a guy taking a power drill through the foot, guy impaled with a sharpened broomstick, guy's neck ripped open by a shiv, guy pistol whipped 5 times and executed point blank, a Yakuza kid getting his neck slit wide open, a child (Elektra) murdering a guy, human beings being systematically drained of their blood, Stick decapitating a mofo, a kid killing his Dad with a scalpel, another kid beating his dad to death with a hammer (with his mom sawing the body into pieces) & a goddamn arm in a garbage disposale.

And I can't even remember the others from JJ. Show me a popular streaming series that pushes the envelope further.

[–] jacktrojan-79032 8 years ago

You repeated yourself.

Jessica Jones was slightly more gory than Daredevil was.

But still, while the Marvel/Netflix original series are all graphically violent, the violence isn't gratuitous enough. Marvel Studios is holding back because of the Disney Corporation's influence. It's also because casual fans are more often than not just a bunch of easily offended and extremely squeamish people who get all bent out of shape because they see scenes of graphic sex and violence.

Then they try to play the sophisticated cinefile film buff angle by saying things like, "Graphic sex scenes and scenes of graphic violence are neither mature nor adult, and if they don't do anything to improve the characters or enhance the movie, or the show, then showing them is just for shock value and it isn't intelligent film making."

It's called not being pussified. But I guess everything is douchey to people these days. F--king liberals.

[–] dmcreif 8 years ago

But still, while the Marvel/Netflix original series are all graphically violent, the violence isn't gratuitous enough. Marvel Studios is holding back because of the Disney Corporation's influence. It's also because casual fans are more often than not just a bunch of easily offended and extremely squeamish people who get all bent out of shape because they see scenes of graphic sex and violence.

They don't need to go all out. This isn't Game of Thrones or Walking Dead.

[–] jacktrojan-79032 8 years ago

They do need to go all out. If they did, then even the upcoming series Iron Fist, the Defenders and the Punisher would all be even better than either the Walking Dead or Game Of Thrones, which honestly are just two hipster-favorite shows that usually are quite overrated.

But I guess that this ultimate culmination of awesome will never, ever happen. Partly due to the fact that Kevin Feige had already made that perfectly clear when he said, "Marvel will never go dark."

It's also partly due to the fact that despite the Netflix shows being the "dark little corner of the Marvel Cinematic Universe", they still don't have any balls to make series like Daredevil, Jessica Jones, and Luke Cage be just as badass as the comic books from Marvel Knights, and Marvel Max were from the early 2000s.

And the wimpy casuals (who are unfortunately the dominant audience watching) complaining about too much sex and violence causes the creators of the shows to hold back, too. That is, if they aren't too busy trying to cater to an agenda.

[–] dmcreif 8 years ago

And the wimpy casuals (who are unfortunately the dominant audience watching) complaining about too much sex and violence causes the creators of the shows to hold back, too. That is, if they aren't too busy trying to cater to an agenda.

Here's the thing: the common audience also is the audience that doesn't want gratuitous sex scenes or excessive amounts of violence.

[–] jacktrojan-79032 8 years ago

Exactly my point. Surrounded by wimps and pansies getting their panties in a twist.

But hey, I'm giving it until the Defenders. If that sh-t turns out be just another f--kin' f-g Disney-fied waste of time, then I'm ghost.