Things I find extremely annoying in Daredevil season 2 (Spoilers inside)

Yeah she can do spinning kicks and a lot of other basic stuff its all very nice I done Taekwondo myself, but the fact of the matter is she is not that good at acting it out.

She seems slow on the screen and she don't do a whole lot of "WOW" stuff it's more like an "ahh.. okey I guess" feeling that I am left with after watching her fight.

Also just because you have "black belt" in karate don't mean *beep* really I just means you been training for a long time that's it.

Also coming with nothing but standard karate and nothing more and playing Electra.. naah basic Karate ain't that amazing to look at mate.

reply share

add reply

formatting help

Yeah why would you want a friend that was never there for you, also called Matt, Matt only really care about the women in his life and *beep* on his best friend that he has had for years.

reply share

add reply

formatting help

I'm still on the first season, but I wanted to see whether anybody else was annoyed by Matt and Foggy's relationship.

Every idea Foggy comes up with, Matt shoots down...whatever Foggy thinks is right, Matt thinks is wrong...if Foggy is upset, Matt is calm, if Foggy likes something, Matt dislikes it. It's really annoying. And...so far, Foggy keeps kissing Matts butt. If my buddy treated me like that, things would get ugly.

Again, I'm only on S1E9, so things may change.

reply share

add reply

formatting help

agreed. it is obnoxious how badly murdock's treated foggy, and it makes his character less likeable. it's obnoxious how he shows karen the mask after elektra 'dies' - it would have made more sense that he'd have shown her that earlier in the season - there were multiple opportunities.

i loved the actress who played elektra and thought she was perfect. however, anyone who thinks elektra is dead has NOT been paying attention all season (how can murdock and stick not know this? are they as mentally challenged as others on this forum?)...the love triangle has taken a turn, but unfortunately, it's gone nowhere.

reply share

add reply

formatting help

Ahhhh.. Yeah that is why she was nearly cumming in her pants when she was trying to force Matt to kill a man bound to a chair. also she kills a kid that was unarmed after Matt had neutralized him, so don't act like she is *beep* better in The Punisher, if anything she is way worse, cause she gets horny of of that *beep*

reply share

add reply

formatting help

You think he would have shown her the mask if Elektra had stayed? I don't and that is why I see it as a sad ass move to pull.

reply share

add reply

formatting help

As for Foggy, the one prick who knows everything yet still can't understand why Daredevil does what he does and why he's pushing everyone away, he deserves what he's getting.

Foggy reacts like any normal person would. See, nearly everything Matt Murdock does at night would get him killed. It wouldn't take long for Matt to come across a criminal who will just shoot him in the face or cut his throat, or anything beyond continuing to attempt to kill him with easily avoidable henchmen punches and kicks and then monologue to him when Matt gets too tired/bloody to move. The fact that Matt is lucky enough that his opponents continue to engage him in his martial arts theatrics probably strikes Foggy as something approaching divine intervention, assuming that he ever considered villains would be that stupid in the first place. That's how the real world works: at some point Matt's luck would run out, and Matt would get killed, leaving Foggy with the entire practice to run by himself. Aside from the personal tragedy of losing his best friend, that's not a great deal for Foggy, because we are all regularly told that Matt is integral to the success of Nelson & Murdock as a whole. And it would be just as bad if Matt was caught or arrested. Suddenly, Matt gets disbarred, and I'm betting Foggy probably would be disbarred with him as an accessory after the fact since most lawyers would have reported Matt to the police and the New York Bar Association if they knew about his second identity.

Is Foggy being a prick for acting like that? Sure, he can be a prick sometimes. But here's the thing: Foggy sees Matt's vigilantism as something akin to a drug addiction - a suicidal death wish that Foggy simply has no interest in enabling. What he wants is his friend - not necessarily the normal one, but one that isn't going out looking to fight an endless war that's going to get him killed. Now, from an outsider's perspective, Foggy is wrong since we all know deep down that there's no way that the producers are going to kill off the titular character, and that affects how we view his actions as we watch from a distance. But Foggy doesn't know what we know, and his character is therefore actually written really well, because in the real world death is a possible hazard of becoming a vigilante. If you were going out fighting crime in New York City, running outside the law, always getting beat up and hurt (after having lied to them about who you are for the past 10 years), then your TRUE friends would tell you that you were a lunatic. Foggy is a true friend, not some sycophant that's raising his glass to his invincible good superhero bro bud.

reply share

add reply

formatting help

2. Love makes even the most principled man on Earth get soft and let things slide.

Or it makes them more dangerous. I can tell you Fisk became a lot more dangerous as a crime boss after Vanessa entered his life.

P.S. The act of showing his mask to Karen is the strongest sign of respect that he can show her. Sure he also does it because he wants her on his side, realizing that he can't do this alone, but the gesture is one of respect nonetheless.

It was noted somewhere else that the breakdown of Matt's relationships with Foggy and Karen in season 2 can be seen as a thesis to everything that Stick had stated about the futility of balancing a normal human life with the life of a warrior. A large part of why Matt thought Stick tended to get under his skin is because deep down he actually believed him. When Stick says "they'll suffer and you'll die," his words became more and more true, and Matt was slowly growing to accept it. By the end of season 2, when Matt saw what was happening to his friends, how hopeless it had been to try and bring down Wilson Fisk in the humane way, trying to use the corrupt legal system to his favor, in Matt's eyes it was hopeless and he was willing to abandon it all. Elektra offered him a larger taste of that side of him, and that created an imbalance that isolated him from Foggy and Karen.

After Elektra died, we saw Matt part from Stick on good terms at Elektra's grave. So by that point, he realized that he needed people like Foggy and Karen to keep him grounded and remind him that he's only a human, and that he needs support, comfort, friendship, and love from other people if he's going to be constantly facing extreme odds. But if he wants his friends to continue supporting him, Matt will need to start being open and honest with them. So by showing Karen the mask and admitting his identity, he's telling her "You told me back in the summer, Karen, that if I wanted to tell you what was really going on with me, you'd promise to be there for me. Well, no more secrets, no more mysterious absences or unusual hours on my behalf, THIS is what's been going on in my life."

reply share

add reply

formatting help

2. Love makes even the most principled man on Earth get soft and let things slide.

Hell, I've actually said that Matt would probably forgive Karen for killing Wesley for that exact reason.

reply share

add reply

formatting help

Matt became some weird proud bro douche in season 2.

I stopped seeing him as this smart well prepared educated lawyer, instead he was a womanizer hell bent on solving problems with violence as well as being a hypocrite to everybody he knew. He banged on about "believing in the law" but left Foggy stranded multiple times so that he could do pointless things with Elektra that were of no real benefit to Hells Kitchen.

reply share

add reply

formatting help

The only people who see it as a double standards are those who aren't paying close attention to the Punisher or are the kind not likely to be disposed to sympathy for him.

reply share

add reply

formatting help