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I've only watched the 1st 4 episodes but...

posted 8 years ago by JustinJackFlash (161)
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I really don't get what all the fuss is about. From what I've been hearing, this was supposed to have been the worst thing to have ever graced our screens.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's anything groundbreaking by any means. It's not onto anything new. But it's reasonably entertaining and fairly well made. There hasn't been any moment where I've been bored. As I say, I've only seen 4 episodes so maybe it takes a swift nosedive in episode 5.

With all the horribly made stuff you get on the Sci-Fi channel and things like The Vampire Diaries, dull, episodic nonsense like Agents of Shield and all those shoddy Buffy wannabees, how is this so detested in comparison?

It's certainly no Daredevil but I'd say it's at least of equal quality to Luke Cage, probably slightly better. And Cage never got the hate this does. A bit of indifference maybe, but not outright derision.

[–] prometheus1816 (1060) 8 years ago

I personally liked the show. And if you're expecting brain surgery, then you might want to go someplace else. That is directed to the haters. Like you said it's no "Daredevil", and as for Luke Cage getting "hate". Do you honestly think that with the "Black Lives Matter" campaign in recent years, anyone would bitch or complain about that show? If anyone did there would be hellfire and damnation reigned down for daring to call out a show that dealt with the "Black" experience. Also can't call out "Jessica Jones" because it's all about "woman power" despite the fact that show was as boring as hell. "Daredevil" was way too successful and started the ball rolling, so one can't complain about that one. So complain about the so-called "cultural appropriation" and not casting an Asian for the lead since the original character was a Caucasian and the whole point of the story way back then was of a fish out of water.

I agree with you on the crap on the Sy-Fy Channel. I cannot stand "Van Helsing" yet here it is in it's second season. As for why "Iron Fist" drew so much ire, it's plainly because the lead character was white and they dared cast according to the dictates of the story, not to assuage a segment of society that should be making their own content.

[–] JustinJackFlash (161) 8 years ago

While I believe the whole SJW thing is a part of it. I really can't believe that there are enough people who are both that way inclined, and interested in this kind of entertainment to create the amount of derision Iron Fist has received. Enough to sway a 19% percent score on Rotten Tomatoes. Possibly by far the lowest score I have ever seen. So we're talking about critics to a large extent. Critics who have frequently given rave reviews to countess films and shows that have been far more racially ignorant than Iron Fist.

I don't think I've even met an SJW in real life. And surely if this "anti-racial" casting were that important, then wouldn't those reviews have mentioned it. Yet I have yet to read a review that has referred to it. Their criticisms seem to be mainly that it's "boring and uneventful". The only places I've seen mention the "anti-racial" aspect is on forums.

It really does seem to me that people genuinely consider this to be a terrible show. No politics.

These same people who convinced me to sit through 1 and a half seasons of Agents of Shield despite it being unengaging, uneventful, uninspiring, repetitive, geeky (in a bad way), witless, bland, intensely wooden, tacky, full of plodding exposition and filmed with absolutely no care or creativity whatsoever.

'It gets better' they kept saying.

But that is made for a built in audience who don't really care about quality, they'll lap up that kind of crap day in day out no matter what you feed them. Yet Iron Fist is actually made with good intent behind it. One is praised, the other is slated. The critical media really is in a world of it's own.

[–] AP (5288) 8 years ago

Yeah, it's not a horrible show. It picks up around episode 6 and, i my opinion gets really solid in the last few episodes. It's not a perfect show, but it held my attention. I'm not sure what the big deal is.