Euthanasia


It's interesting that the movie shows the point of the person choosing to die instead of waiting for natural death, but nobody talks about Euthanasia.

Don't we have the right to die with dignity? Don't we have the right to choose?

Law points as crime killing other people and life as a basic right. But if I have the right of living, why can't I have the right to *choose* for it?

And why am I forced to suffer if I have an illness that's painful or degradating but isn't fatal, or takes a lot of time to kill?

Why can't I choose both to be treated and to die without pain?

And why, everything this is talked about on TV, they show people saying they suffer but they fight and wanna live? Let them live uai. Nobody is saying to kill them. They have the right to do whatever they want with their life, why can't we too?

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People who are opposed to euthanasia are morons, that is a fact. Not their choice.

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I think it's a tough issue, not clear cut. Of course I don't think people in horrific pain and little to no quality of life should be forced to linger, with heroic measures taken to string them along.

But, if you allow euthanasia, the ethical concern is that you start down a slippery slope where people with terminal illnesses face mounting social pressure to spare everyone the difficulty and expense of caring for them, and maybe after a hundred years or two hundred, it's not really a choice any more.

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I'd want euthanasia.

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Absolutely, except the spiritual part of me would probably stop me from effectively committing suicide, even if it's done by someone else. But then I couldn't speak for certain as I had never lived the unbearable suffering of say an end stage cancer patient. I'm pretty sure that I'd be all for it in that case. But would I do it for someone I love if they asked me? Probably. That's a bit different. It's almost an act of ultimate kindness, not a homicide.

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This false moralism makes me sad.

I liked when Alice said she'd rather have cancer.

Any movie portraing somebody sick fighting to live will be well received. But make a movie about somebody fighting for the right to die and it will be avoided in many places and have trouble being financed.

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I liked when Alice said she'd rather have cancer.



I really appreciated that part as well.

Having lost both my parents to cancer, I can still understand her desire and am not sure I disagree.


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The film itself argues against you.
Maybe your DVD was skipping around or you didn't watch it in order.
Maybe it was too subtle.

Early in her disease, Alice feels exactly like you do. Pro suicide. Sets up the pills and the video.

LATER while fighting the disease, she tells the conference in her speech that life can still be hard but it can still be enjoyable and life is still worth living.

LATER STILL when she is having one of those particularly enjoyable moments spending time online with her daughter, she stumbles on the butterfly video. In there someone young and naive who hasn't matured enough to know that all life is a gift that should be enjoyed and cherished tries to trick a vulnerable woman that life sucks and she should die.

If you weren't sure this was the author's intent, go back and watch the butterfly necklace part again. Young naive Alice is sad to hear butterflies live so short. Her mother tells her the truth, life is short, but isn't it freaking awesome too! Get out there and enjoy it!

The stage you are in is natural, you are just immature. Heck, Alice at the start of the movie was immature too. Go ahead and list out all of the people who you think would be better off dead. Show that list around. See how well that goes over.

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by clever-username

Hey stupid, learn to argue like an intelligent grown-up and spare us your flawed moral lectures.

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So well said clever-username. We do not know our future selves. How could Alice have known herself and what she would have really lost had she ended her life.

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Beautifully stated. I believe that is exactly what the Director was trying to get across to the public. While so difficult, there are still lucid beautiful times to remember.

Don't let the idiots bring you down. I've lost a parent to it, and totally agree with you.

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It's spelled youth in Asia and they just need jobs.

what's this L33T speak sh!t

OH SPOILER ALERT!

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They have allowed euthanasia in Canada if I remember correctly.

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Active euthanasia is currently illegal in Canada, but it might be made legal in 2016 when the government has to amend the laws...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carter_v_Canada_(AG)

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A great documentary on this subject is called

"How to die in Oregon"

Or something very similar. They legalized this a while back and I believe and couple, or a few more states have finally followed suit.

I had always thought this was a no-brainer, and that people should absolutely decide their own fate.

But there is a case where the insurance company opts against treatment for a guy with cancer, while agreeing to pay for the life-ending concoction and it really got me thinking of how powerful and shady the whole insurance industry is. With their lobbying power things could get sticky when this becomes more modernized.

Aside from that, it's a no-brainer.

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One of the most powerful things I've ever seen...I think it should be required viewing for everyone.

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I totally agree with you. Everyone should have the choice, and they do have a choice to live or die, just not the choice of doing it 3rd party, like euthanasia. And someone named "clever" responded here about a young naive Alice...um,she was 50.

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First, I am totally Pro Life. Only God can give or take a life. Even if it seems unbearable. Everyday they make advances on Cancer and other diseases like Alzheimers that improves and extends the quality of life.

I'm sure I will get hate follow up for this, but legalized Euthanasia opens a dangerous door. In Europe you can be Euthanized for Depression. Having a down day, just go get Euthanized. What if it just costs too much to keep someone alive, they have no family to protect them, and the Healthcare System just decides to Euthanize them. It's possible once it is legalized. Sounds preposterous but it's possible. And once it's done, it's not like you can take it back.

They find cures for diseases. Just a few years ago HIV/AIDS was a death sentence, and look at it now. People can have long quality normal lives if they take care of themselves. People miraculously wake from years in a coma, and they are finding cures and prevention for what was fatal diseases.

Don't get me wrong. I am a DNR. If a machine is breathing for me, or feeding me, then I am not alive and pull the plug.

Many with Alzheimers do commit suicide, like they used to with Aids. There is no way to stop them if they are determined, but legalization or assisted suicide is not the answer. And if they are in the later stages, they are not mentally capable of making such a decision.

If you know anything about her type of Early Onset she will die quickly. Please do your homework, and don't allow people to rob themselves of what might be quality years left.

I've lost both my parents to painful diseases, one Cancer and one Alzheimers. I wouldn't exchange those last moments for anything. My Father hadn't been lucid for weeks, and just days before he passed he had about 30 minutes of clarity, and had a chance to say goodbye and give me his final wishes. Even through the pain he died in peace.

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what i found interesting about the film is that if i had alzheimers, i wouldn't want to die. i have spina bifida and i hate that i'm AWARE of my surroundings. i'd prefer a mental illness where i have no idea what's going on. contrast this film to something like 'the theory of everything' where stephen never wanted to die but i'd want to be put out of my misery and it makes for an interesting debate.

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