What was the significance of the conversation near the beginning, where Courtney and Tom are discussing a letter she found under a pillow?
shareThe significance is that it shows that the SPD did little to no real investigation, even when Courtney Love claimed very suspicious things, such as a secret second suicide note.
shareLove told Grant that Cobain had a second suicide note addressed to her that he left under the pillow. Grant had searched their bedroom during the week Cobain was 'missing', looking for drug paraphernalia, and found no such note. When he confronted Love with this information she insisted it was there.
shareHe couldn't even find Kurt. No wonder he didn't manage to find a white envelope.
shareThe house was searched by Eric Erlandson and Courtney's other friends. They didn't find Kurt either. But people like you never mention that, do you?
shareThey aren't private detectives.
shareHave you watched it? Or just arguing for the hell of it? Several Seattle police went by the house in those days as well. Nobody, not even them, thought to check the greenhouse. A storage room above the garage. All the while he lie dead in there. I'm not big on conspiracies but this case needs to be reopened.
shareHe couldn't find Kurt because Courtney led him on a wild goose chase. If your employer intentionally leaves out sightings of him, tells you he'll be in a fancy hotel when he's in a slum, the guy your with is told to check the greenhouse but never mentions it, what are you going to do? Those of you convinced it was a suicide are criticizing him for believing YOUR SIDE. You morons are arguing he should have gone fully rogue, assumed Courtney was complicit, and set out on his own. The exact opposite of what you insist is flagrantly obvious.
Wouldn't it have been a lot easier to not hire a private investigator?
shareWhat if she hired him so she could find him before the divorce came down and she could kill him then?
What if she hired him, and only later decided to kill him?
What if she hired him for the sole purpose of building support for the suicide narrative?
What if she hired him to find him and had nothing to do with Cobain's death, but is a druggie moron?
I'm not interested in one narrative. I'm interested in the truth. The case made in the documentary convinced me it doesn't look like suicide. Not that Courtney was necessarily at fault to some degree.
But the situation presented happens a hell of a lot. And killers will do stupid things like hire PIs to try to throw attention off themselves.
So, Courtney Love hiring a private investigator to find her missing husband makes her suspicious. Would you think Courtney Love not hiring a private investigator to find her missing husband to was suspicious also?
So, Courtney Love hiring a private investigator to find her missing husband makes her suspicious. Would you think Courtney Love not hiring a private investigator to find her missing husband to was suspicious also?
So, Courtney Love hiring a private investigator to find her missing husband makes her suspicious. Would you think Courtney Love not hiring a private investigator to find her missing husband to was suspicious also?
"And killers will do stupid things like hire PIs to try to throw attention off themselves" - they do? Has this happened before?
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I just hired a private investigator to make sense of your theory that killers hire PIs to throw suspicion off of themselves and how that doesn't jibe with my response. He gave up too.
shareBut one other person did it once so it must happen all the time and that's totally why Courtney did it! Even though she was in another state when Kurt was found and had no need for any kind of alibi.
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I just hired a private investigator to make sense of your theory that killers hire PIs to throw suspicion off of themselves and how that doesn't jibe with my response. He gave up too.
You've already been proven wrong idiot.
shareThe apocryphal second suicide note is just part of the suicide trail she has created.
The first note didn't resemble a suicide note except for the dubious and random last lines and the second note doesn't exist.
Ah I didn't realise it was supposed to be a second note , I guess this never turned up then?
shareGrant hasn't seen it. She's claimed publicly that there was a note and its contents were really *beep* up' as you would expect a suicide note to be, not at all like the mostly lucid note that was made public which didnt contain allusions to suicide. Grant reckons the note that was found was never meant to be made public and therefore scrutinized, so Love invented the second note.
shareBingo! Yep, she never meant for the content of the "suicide note" at the scene to be made public. And people forget that when she read from it at the memorial that she lied and said that most of the note was "none of our business" since it was directed at her and Frances when in reality most of the note was to the fans. So she already has a history of lying and misrepresenting the note. So she made up a second note that nobody could see and read and realize she's a liar.
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When Courtney read the note at the memorial she said "I'm not gonna read you all the note 'cause it's none of the rest of your *beep* business. But some of it is to you." And after she read the note, she said "And there is some more personal things that is none of your damn business." Neither of those things are lies or misrepresentative.
Not once did she say "most of the note was 'none of our business." I guess this begins your pattern of lying?
But some of it is to you
Neither of those things are lies or misrepresentative.
"the mostly lucid note that was made public which didn't contain allusions to suicide."
I have no idea where people get this one from, even though I hear it repeated a lot. Having written a suicide note myself, Kurt's note is filled with the self hatred and self pity that was in mine. The note's on the Internet in full, so let's take a look:
"I haven't felt the excitement of listening to as well as creating music along with reading and writing for too many years now."
"I've tried everything within my power to appreciate it (and I do,God, believe me I do, but it's not enough)."
"On our last 3 tours, I've had a much better appreciation for all the people I've known personally, and as fans of our music, but I still can't get over the frustration, the guilt and empathy I have for everyone. There's good in all of us and I think I simply love people too much, so much that it makes me feel too *beep* sad. The sad little, sensitive, unappreciative, Pisces, Jesus man."
"since the age of seven, I've become hateful towards all humans in general. Only because it seems so easy for people to get along that have empathy. Only because I love and feel sorry for people too much I guess."
"I don't have the passion anymore, and so remember, it's better to burn out than to fade away."
This is 65 percent of that note. It doesn't include the scribbled stuff at the bottom, which could have easily been written through tears, or after he shot up again. I know you guys don't want to believe that he killed himself, but I have no idea how you can look at things like this note and not see it, to quote Krist Novolesic, "as plain as day." (He believes Kurt killed himself, by the way, and so does Dave, and so does most of Kurt's family, and suicide is, a lot of times, something incredibly difficult for a family to accept. But they knew him. Grant did not meet Kurt, ever, not even once).