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Should have been more....

posted 8 years ago by ke_neth1981
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... of space-walking scenes. A futuristic show such as this where space travelling is a daily routine, and most of the scenes are shot indoors? Thats kinda defeating the purpose of this show. Hardly any futuristic weapons or ultra-high tech gadgets shown either. Maybe including more moon walking shots and filming of life on mars and aliens and alien technology etc etc, the possibilities are infinite here. But most of it, just plain blabbering and some cheeky dialogue, like most tv shows - but not unlike so many posts here. Hope the producers justify this show is future seasons.

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[–] Placiddragon 8 years ago

Why ? There are plenty of outside shots in the series.

As for technology, the series is only set 200 years into the future, not 2000. You are not going to see any Star Wars era tech :)

As for Aliens, again, its 200 years into the future. I've not read the books, but nothing suggests to me that humanity has met any (yet).

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[–] TheFirstStormAndTheLast 8 years ago

"As for Aliens, again, its 200 years into the future. I've not read the books, but nothing suggests to me that humanity has met any (yet)."

So I guess you guys missed the first five minutes and the entire last two episodes? What do you think the glowing goo stuff was?

[–] Placiddragon 8 years ago

So I guess you guys missed the first five minutes and the entire last two episodes? What do you think the glowing goo stuff was?

Thats just it, i have absolutely no idea. It didn't come from nowhere, it came from a lab (a research station.. think its name was Phoebie station or something).

Now.. where THEY got it from, i dont recall being explained. Is it come kind of crap they have genetically manufactured, or is it something they have discovered somewhere (IE, alien life). That i dont know :)

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[–] TheFirstStormAndTheLast 8 years ago

Fair enough. I do believe they mentioned what they believed it's origin to be. I might be confusing what I already know with what I've seen but the possibility that it is alien should definitely be considered.

[–] Placiddragon 8 years ago

Fair enough. I do believe they mentioned what they believed it's origin to be. I might be confusing what I already know with what I've seen but the possibility that it is alien should definitely be considered

I dont recall that, but could easily have missed it. As for its origin, since this is sci-fi, alien sounds much better than "lab creation" after all, yes :)

Im sure we'll find out :)

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[–] ke_neth1981 8 years ago

Why ? There are plenty of outside shots in the series

I mean space walking scenes. If you've observed, most shots last no more than a few seconds. I am referring to action taking place in zero gravity space and star wars, maybe not, but definitely star trek stuff would be credible and with space travelling a routine defintely better guns than seemingly advanced tech shooting .35 slugs.

In short, tech and gadgets that we see around here should not be seen there. Even the concepts should be shown as evolved. 200 years ago, wars would be fought with bows and arrows and swords. Ppl do not go Marco Polo during wars any more, so why 200 years later? Get the point?

[–] Placiddragon 8 years ago

I mean space walking scenes. If you've observed, most shots last no more than a few seconds. I am referring to action taking place in zero gravity

I would imagine that those shots are limited due to being quite technical. All zero-g is emulated by wire work, which requires quite elaborate setups (and probably more importantly, take time to get right).

In short, tech and gadgets that we see around here should not be seen there. Even the concepts should be shown as evolved

And they are evolved, yet still based on recognizable technology. Which makes perfect sense.

200 years ago, wars would be fought with bows and arrows and swords

hehe, not quite. The gun has been the main armament of Western nations for 500 or so years (ever since the "pike and shot" era). The pike was a defensive weapon to hold off cavalry, while the musket was the offensive weapon (but took ages to load). Once muskets became easier to handle (relatively speaking), they took over completely as the sole weapon of soldiers.

The exception was Cavalry, for which loading a musket was... very impractical, so most stuck to melee weapons like sabres and lances.

In fact, pretty much exactly 200 years ago (1815), was the battle of Waterloo. I dont think you'd find many bows in that battle :)

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[–] ke_neth1981 8 years ago

You missed the point in its entirety, I think. To get my point across, ok, lets accept the pike & shot. With that in mind, how much more has the concept of warfare evolved since then? With that in mind, shouldn't matters be shown more evolved than it is now? 200 yrs ago there were no lifts. But elevators 200 yrs from now? Seems things have evolved very little apart from words spoken.

And they are evolved, yet still based on recognizable technology. Which makes perfect sense.

That is exactly my question. Star trek is based on "recognisable technology", but star wars isn't. In this series, the futuristic concept of people living in space is credible. Its just these seemingly minor plot holes that excruciatingly stand out, the only plausible explanation for which may be....

I would imagine that those shots are limited due to being quite technical. All zero-g is emulated by wire work, which requires quite elaborate setups (and probably more importantly, take time to get right).

In which case one would be left with very little to discuss than to accept things as they are- take it, or leave it.

[–] Placiddragon 8 years ago

You missed the point in its entirety, I think

I didn't, i just wanted to correct you since you were *really* far off. While im no historian (and certainly not trying to make a big deal out of it), firearms in warfare is a *lot* more than 200 years old :)

With that in mind, how much more has the concept of warfare evolved since then? With that in mind, shouldn't matters be shown more evolved than it is now? 200 yrs ago there were no lifts. But elevators 200 yrs from now? Seems things have evolved very little apart from words spoken.

Since the era of the musket ? a hell of a lot naturally. What it looked like to me though was that you said "see how far we've come in 200 years", and then expecting a similar leap in 200 years going forward. Thats just not gonna happen. Apart from visually, the standard gun hasn't developed much at all post WW2 (one could almost argue post WW1).

The weapon itself has been made lighter due to alloy usage, polymers, kevlar, etc, been made to fire faster and more accurately, and with new technical gadgets (like the OICW) like aim assist, heatseeking, etc, those things would naturally (combined with future miniaturization) make it into a future weapon, as would "smart" technology.

But at its core its still firing pin ---> cartridge ---> barrel, same as it was 100 years ago.

That is exactly my question. Star wars is based on "recognisable technology", but star wars isn't. In this series, the futuristic concept of people living in space is credible. Its just these seemingly minor plot holes that excruciatingly stand out, the only plausible explanation for which may be....

Did you mean Star Wars and Star Trek ? I am not too familiar with Star Trek, but phasors and personal teleporters, etc is probably something thats a lot further than 200 years ahead of us :) (same goes for Star Wars and laser and ion weaponry).

You also have to remember, we are dealing primarily with the "belter" side here, which seems to be pretty much the 3rd world equivalent of this universe. While we haven't seen much of what Earth has to offer, we've seen that Mars uses rail guns for ship armament, etc, but the belters mostly have crap equipment far beyond their expiry date :)

In which case one would be left with very little to discuss than to accept things as they are- take it, or leave it

I was just offering up a theory, but ultimately, yes, you either like it or you dont. That goes for all visual stimulation be it the TV, books, magazines or whatever.

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