Season 2 took a giant dip in popularity (for me at least). I enjoyed watching this dysfunctional duo every week to see what nonsense they would get involved in. But then Gretchen falls into a depression abyss and the show took on a more serious image. Sorry, I just wasn't entertained. Hopefully, Season 3 will take them back to the nasty shenanigans they were involed in during Season1.
That's magical thinking on Gretchen's part, and she knows it. That's why she's going to finally talk to a doctor about treatment. If she honestly believed that nothing but being with Jimmy was enough to keep her well, she still wouldn't consider seeking help. But she knows it may very well come back no matter how happy she is with him, so she's set on doing something about it.
Magical thinking is extremely common in people with severe emotional problems. As long as they're not also thought-disordered (she's not), they usually have some idea that they're doing it, though they might not have the language to explain it (she doesn't).
That was a very realistic little bit. She has a breakthrough, at first she emotionally attributes it to The Power of Love, then she realizes logically that nah, there's more to it than that (this wasn't the first time after all), and she does need a doctor's help.
That's magical thinking on Gretchen's part, and she knows it.
I disagree. I think it was just incredibly sh!tty writing during a bad second season.
The whole "charm" of the show was they they were unapologetic about being so horrible. Now we get to see why they are the worst - Jimmy's family is awful, Gretchen suffers from depression....
Blah, blah, blah it fell into the typical sitcom routine of giving background to characters for us to sympathize with.
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I dunno, it worked for me, though I did find the second season less fun until the end. I felt that they gained depth without losing that quintessential you're "the worst" quality - I mean, they're still both, to quote H.I. McDunnough, "kinda selfish and unrealistic."
But hey, if you hated it, that's totally legit too. I'm not going to try to get you to keep watching!
I wonder how much of a difference it may have made that I binged it.
Pretty sure you are talking to a guy in the ignore list of many people on this board, and it has nothing to do with his opinion, its intelligence (or the lack thereof), or the manner in which he articulates it. I am here mainly in the capacity of an observer, and what I observed is that people who dislike the current episodes would just declare their disdain and then walk away. For some reason this dude made it his life goal to respond to every single praise the second season had received with a tantrum or some bitter remark (which is quite hilarious).
It's only rational to spend one's energy on some more profitable endeavor, an appropriate quote: "surely there must be more to life than this"
Over and out :^)
Did you ever stop to think, and forget to start again? - Winnie the Pooh
...it has nothing to do with his opinion, its intelligence (or the lack thereof), or the manner in which he articulates it....
It has EVERYTHING to do with his opinion (always trollish), his lack of intelligence, and the manner in which he articulates it (contrary for the sake of being contrary).
I took him off Ignore because I couldn't remember why I put him on, and yes, I was correct whenever I Ignored him, and he goes back on the Ignore list as soon as I post this.
If he actually was hilarious, I might not, but he just seems to be the worst kind of boor. Ugh!
Just because you are too stupid to understand how they went down the typical sitcom route and betrayed what they built in the first season, PLUS insulted those people who deal with depression doesn't mean I'm a troll or a boor.
My point is that in typical shows, the "bad guy" does something bad, and then we find out it is because of something else. Then we get a look at his past and start to "understand" why he is the way he is, and there is some connection made between him and the "good guy."
Then, the next week, the "bad guy" does something bad again....and you have to wonder why the eff, after having just made a connection, did he do something like that again? Then, we get a look at his past....
In other shows it can be chalked up to "it is just a typical sitcom". Is that how it is supposed to be with this one? If so, they screwed up the foundation of the show.
Yeah, we saw Jimmy lose it because his father sent him a shirt from some soccer team, but we never saw further beyond that. So, at that point, it was, "Is Jimmy's father a dick for sending him that, or is Jimmy just being an immature jerk for getting p!ssy about the gift his father sent?"
Now it is, "Jimmy is totally justified in being an azz. His family is HORRIBLE."
Justifying their horrible behavior has lessened the show.
Well, I liked the second season but would not rank it as good as the first season for one thing - and thats how they handled Edgar. I think he's got the best actor in the show and the first season established also that he is the coolest guy of them all despite constantly berated and downplayed. I think, despite what they did with him he is still kind of second fiddle and he did not develop well. And he did not get a cool cooking scene this time, that were one of the funniest bits in the first season for me. Else, I liked it. I did not think the depression arc was done badly and there were enough funny episodes. Liked especially the one focussing their neighbours and the one with the horror house.
What? Edgar developed brilliantly. He was in treatment for his PTSD, got a job, got involved in improv comedy and developed a relationship. A very grown up and healthy one at that.
If anything Edgar has fast become more mature than the others.
Like you and many others, I was supremely upset when things went all off into left field with Gretchen's depression.. HOWEVER... having suffered throiugh all of season 2 i now see the brilliance of the writers' madness and had to rewatch the whole of season 2 again.... totally brilliant and though not the same direction as season 1, equally as good it not better...
IMO it addressed many aspects of depression that "PC" people tend to avoid... the strain on the person, on their loved ones etc... I do hope that season 3 will go off in a 3rd direction, not revisiting s1 and s2 but keeping within the reality they tried to portray in both
I want to see less of that skank becca... she is such a worthless mouthbreather...
But, again, it went down the same "TV sitcom path" of explaining why the bad people are bad. Gretchen's is because of depression. Jimmy's is because of his horrid family.
So we get to see this and gain some sympathy for them, instead of just accepting that they are horrid people and seeing how these horrid people live their lives.
I wonder if next season they'll do the typical sitcom routine of ignoring the bridges which were built and just go back to being horrid people.