I don't mean the characters in the show. I mean the people who were fluffing themselves over how "BRILLIANT" the show was for dealing with depression.
I think Gretchen's line of, "You fixed me." was a big EFF YOU to them. I mean, the show is SOOOOO realistic about depression - and all it took was Jimmy staying with her to make her all better.
Awwwww....
Seconded. And add on to that the implausibility that no one had looked into whether or not Gretchen was even seeking help through medication of any kind. Weak, and every critic I read who stood up for the depression arc's merits conveniently glossed over these resolutions.
shareShe was snorting Adderall, and I know that at one point they used to prescribe that drug for depression - just not to snort it.
I just find it BRILLIANT! that they were going on and on about how realistic it was they way they were portraying depression and that we were all wrong when we were saying how it was ruining the show.
But, as soon as she said, "You fixed me" they were gone - hopefully never to be seen from again.
Depression can come and go in waves, Gretchen isn't saying "I am forever fixed" she is just saying that thanks to his help she is better... for now. If you think that this line means "I am forever cured of depression" than you are just looking for a reason to hate this show.
shareIt was crap. She went on and on about how he couldn't fix her, and then he does.
In addition, so many people were fluffing themselves about how BRILLIANT!!! it was because it was sooooooo realistic and moving.
Once they pulled that crap those people were no longer posting here.
I'm not looking of a reason to hate it. The shoved it down our throats. I'd like a reason to like it again.
Gretchen was snorting Adderall for the high, to help get thru the day. She was self-medicating. There's a brief scene in which you see her stealing the Adderall from Killian's prescription bottle. Quick aside- it totally makes sense that a neglected kid like Killian would have 'those' types of parents who can't handle a normal kid w/energy and look for a quick 'fix' like Adderall. Sad.
When Gretchen said 'you fixed me,' in the Halloween SF epi., she was trying to both placate Jimmy/his ego, and get him off her back in his efforts to 'fix' her. Anyone who took that line seriously either wasn't paying attention or should dumb down their TV fare.
What is the word I'm thinking of? Oh yeah. Bullsh!t.
She knew she was depressed and not just down in the dumps. She knew all about it. She knew he couldn't "fix" her. She knew all of this.
But then she is fixed because he stayed with her.
I've dealt with depressed people before and if you don't get them properly medicated, they don't just sit up one day and say, "you fixed me" in the same way as you'd say, "thanks for cheering me up."
Weak. Instead of being true to the show, they pulled the same TV sitcom cr*p that almost all shows do. They feed us backgrounds on the characters to explain why they are the way they are.
Boo-hoo. She's a b!tch because she was fat as a child. Aww, that's ok. We connected with you.
Next episode she's a b!tch again.
The beauty of this show in the first season was that we got to see all of them grow, without losing their douche-bag nature.
This season we got to see why Gretchen is like she is. Or that Jimmy is an immature azz because of his horrible family.
It stopped being "Your the worst" and now has become, "Well, it makes sense as to why you are so messed up."
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You've been arguing this same tired argument in nearly every thread- last season was great b/c they were dicks with no reason given as to why they're dicks, and this season effed it all up by giving us back stories to explain their dickish behavior. Bad sitcom trope, blah blah blah, ad nauseum.
The beauty of this show in the first season was that we got to see all of them grow, without losing their douche-bag nature.
This season we got to see why Gretchen is like she is. Or that Jimmy is an immature azz because of his horrible family.
It stopped being "Your the worst" and now has become, "Well, it makes sense as to why you are so messed up."
last season was great b/c they were dicks with no reason given as to why they're dicks, and this season effed it all up by giving us back stories to explain their dickish behavior. Bad sitcom trope, blah blah blah, ad nauseum.
You're conveniently forgetting the flashback in S1 in which we saw Jimmy's proposal to Becca crash and burn (ergo- why Jimmy is so down on love, why he's drinking so much, why he's gone from pompous ass to downright dick). We saw Gretchen having a quarter-life(ish) crisis, and being dissed by her director booty call (why SHE's so down on love, why she's decided in a snit to chuck it all and move to NY). We even got some backstory on Des., Lindsey, and Becca that informed their current behavior and recent choices.
They're still the worst.
Hey! You FINALLY got something right!!!
Oh. Sorry. I didn't know that you made up the rules of the board.
Would you please send me the list?
Thanks!
LOL. It wasn't good, that whole depression arc. I will now always watch this show with a hint that it may (and probly will) take this tack again. I don't think they learned their lesson. I think they will try sh!t like this again.
I wonder how many viewers that aren't so vocal as we are, just. effin'. quit. Sadly, most viewers have the attention span of a gnat and won't tolerate that bullsh!t for more than a couple of minutes... and it lasted SEVERAL episodes. smh
I still want to stick with it because there is a brilliance to the comedy, which hooked me initially. The show has/had real potential, I hope they find it again. I await S03 to see the worst that these characters can offer.
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I thought the look in her eyes made if obvious that she was just telling him what he needed to hear.
"Nothing Hillary utters can be trusted. Even if on fire her screams would be disingenuous."
I don't think that she fully believes she's fixed, but I do think it was absolute cr&p that the whole time she kept saying that he can't but now pulls out that line.
I think it would have been better if she said something along the lines of, "You can't fix me, but because you stayed I want to try to get better."
I mean, it still would have been typical TV sitcom fluff, but it would have been better than the other cr&p.
That wouldn't have had the result she wanted on Jimmy. She wanted him to stop trying. If she said it your way things would stay exactly as they had been. But instead, with a single look, that this was crap was displayed to the audience.
"Nothing Hillary utters can be trusted. Even if on fire her screams would be disingenuous."