I was very happy to see the little boy had long hair, then I read these threads and people are saying she couldn't cut his hair because there was no scissors or sharp knife - suggesting she definitely would have cut it if she could.
I was really sad when he got a haircut at the end. I know it was supposed to represent "strength" because of Samson and Delilah and all that, and he gave his strength to his mom, but I do wish boys having long hair was more common in general. :( The grandma's deep urge to cut it is expected and common, but it made me uncomfortable that she rejected his hair so openly.
I read an article that described the boy as having "Titian" like locks and I thought that was a great description. I agree, the long hair gives him an angelic, innocent and biblical like look.
well, don't get me wrong, I don't mind if boys have long hair, but I don't think the author or director were trying to send a message that is wrong for boys to have long hair. The grandmother asking to cut it was perfectly normal as you said. I thought the moment when Jack asked for the scissors was very sweet.
The world has gotten so darned straight and genderfied.
No.
I don't know where you live, but the world is less "straight and genderfied" than it's ever been and it's getting less "straight and genderfied" by the day.
Go outside. If the world still isn't gay or transgendered enough for you, I recommend you move to the Castro.
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You seemed to have missed the point of this conversation entirely. The boys in the 70s 80s were all allowed to wear long hair, in fact, a majority of my male friends wore long hair. These days, gender stereotypes are much stricter, boys are expected to have short hair, if they prefer long hair they are encouraged to call themselves girls instead of boys.
For people older than you, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, the sexist stereotypes were less in your face than they are now. You may not have noticed but stores which put "girl toys" in pink painted aisles and "boy toys" in blue painted aisles are being accused of fostering sexism, and those with better management are eliminating such sexist practices.
***So I've seen 4 movies/wk in theatre for a 1/4 century, call me crazy?**
Not THAT long, in my experience. Just for convenience's sake, boys will/would cut their hair at shoulder length even if they grew it long. To have hair halfway down a boy's back (like Jack's) was unusual, even in the 1970's (hippie culture aside.)
Long hair came back in style from 1995-2005 it'll probably be back in 2020 2025 Women, can't live with em; So stuff your mother and live with that.(Bullet Tooth 504)
I agree, I loved the long hair. Then when they talked about cutting it I was like "NO!". When he replied it was his strength I could only think "goddamn right, metal as *beep*".
Was sad that they cut it, but it was well done so.
I'm at that part right now, but I stopped the DVD to come on the board to see if people had commented on Jack's hair being cut.
I like his hair long, too, because of the reasons mentioned above (the allusion to Samson and the angelic innocence the long hair lends his face), and I think that, for me, his long hair also symbolized a freedom - from gender roles - in spite of his being held captive.
In Room, blankets and clothing were functional not meaningful (not boyish or girlish). Watching Dora the Explorer, reading Alice in Wonderland, and decorating eggshells were acceptable. non-gendered activities in Room, whereas when he arrived at his grandparents' house in the outside world, most of his gifts were "typical" toys for boys (legos and trucks).
And I agree that the grandmother wanting to cut it was realistic, but right now I'm holding my breath for his mother's reaction. Cutting the boy's hair for the first time just seems to me to be a thing that she would have wanted to do (or decide to have done) if and when the hair was cut.
A child's first hair cut tends to be the parents' decision (perhaps more often, the mother's), and under these circumstances in which Joy is clear that Jack is "hers," I think that she might find his haircut upsetting. We'll see. I hope that I'm wrong.
Bones and all. He ate the whole thing, bones and all.
Ok, first, what does our culture's gender roles have to do with politics?
Second, it may not have been its primary intention, but gender roles were prevalent in the way that it was obvious from watching the film that the mother raised Jack in a way that she did not seem to make adhering to culturally ascribed gender roles a concern of hers. So whether you like it or not, the movie had that *beep* in it.
And third, why exactly does that upset you so much?
oh noes, not gender roles! Gender is biological. If you need to, you can google the origins to men having shorter hair than women, and it isnt due to some committee sitting down and arbitrarily decreeing it, as SJWs seem to think.
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I'm going to excuse you because I'm guessing you do not have a lot of education on the matter, hence your "SJW" comment. Gender is in fact, a cultural construct. We see different gender roles throughout time and space and many societies have more than the typical two genders based on sex. Sex is in fact, biological and has to do with your specific reproductive organs.
Origins of men having short hair? I did google it, as you asked (although I knew exactly what I would find) and google only confirmed that men have had long hair throughout different societies and throughout time once again. If there was a culturally constructed reason as to why men might have shorter hair than women during a certain time and place, that does not by any means make it an absolute rule for all subsequent generations to follow.
If you have a different understanding than this, please explain it and I shall listen.
I'm going to excuse you because I'm guessing you do not have a lot of education on the matter, hence your "SJW" comment. Gender is in fact, a cultural construct. We see different gender roles throughout time and space and many societies have more than the typical two genders based on sex. Sex is in fact, biological and has to do with your specific reproductive organs.
Origins of men having short hair? I did google it, as you asked (although I knew exactly what I would find) and google only confirmed that men have had long hair throughout different societies and throughout time once again. If there was a culturally constructed reason as to why men might have shorter hair than women during a certain time and place, that does not by any means make it an absolute rule for all subsequent generations to follow.
If you have a different understanding than this, please explain it and I shall listen.
The basis for men having short hair is that men are the fighters/protectors, and it's more efficient to have short hair in battle/combat.mmen being the protectors/fighters is biological, and ergo having short hair is. It wasn't decided by a committee of men trying to figure out how to "oppress" women, as sjws seem to think. The term "social construct" is a social construct, ergo it is invalidated.
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No. Sex is biological. Gender is societal. And men don't have shorter hair than women, they just cut them. Did you know ancient Spartan warriors had long hair (because they didn't cut it)?
Did you know that the worlds shortest black is shorter than the worlds tallest asian? That proves tyat blacks are not taller than asians and that height is not biological, but a social comstruct. What is it with libfags and not grasping the concept of outliers? They make the exact same logical fallacies every time they express a thought.
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It wasn't until the 50s that gender started meaning something different than biological sex. The whole concept of gender and sex being different is the social construct.
Jack's long hair distracted from the attempt to portray the story as realistic. In reality, all that hair would have been a severe maintenance and hygienic problem.
Please, people all round the world manage to maintain long hair in all sorts of conditions. I agree short hair is much easier but long hair doesn't cause "hygienic problems". In room there was a bath which they used, they had cleaning supplies (presumably shampoo), scissors, both mother and son used ponytails. Not much maintenance if you don't cut it and just tie it up - that's how you grow your hair. They obviously washed and brushed, and weren't likely to get lice with their lack of outside contact. Hair can drip dry pretty easily. Neither of them looked like their hair was in great condition but it wasn't dirty. I don't see how this is unrealistic.
100% agree. It would be easy to grow long, healthy hair in room. No lice, no hairdryer, no heating products. The only possible issue would be the lack of nutrition in their diets and the lack of sunlight so the hair may be particularly healthy and growth may be somewhat stunted.
The 90s are over. Boys (and men) shouldn't have long hair. It just looks like the grunge era all over again. I can't stand men with ponytails and I just don't get why they won't let the look go. Yuck!
And no, I don't think this because I think it looks "gay" as some other poster said. In fact, these days you would be hard-pressed to find gay guys with long hair because they have more style and taste! (Sorry, I know that was stereotypical, but I'm trying to be light-hearted here).
I don't know why any parent would want to mess with long hair on a boy or a girl. When I was little, I had a short Dorothy Hamil haircut and it looked cute. And my Mom got to do other things with her time than mess with her kid's long hair.
The boy's hair always looked very clean. Sure there wasn't much to do in the Room, but why take on the monotonous task of maintaining long hair? The "Sampson Effect" was pointless.
As far as the claim of no sharp instruments like scissors, being allowed, why was Ma's hair as short as it was.
Thank you for that comment! What little Judgey Judgerson doesn't seem to understand is that she is stating an opinion, not a fact, and seems to believe that her opinion is superior to all others. It's not, everyone reading this thread would see that and realize that she does, indeed, seem rather foolish. Oh, well...some asshats just can't understand another person's preferences or point of view.