Cheating


I found this to be a pretty but pedestrian biopic. Not great not terrible. Pleasant all around. The one thing that bothered me was the way they handled Hawking's affair and then later marriage to Elaine. They brushed it under the rug but it sounds like it was a toxic mess where abuse was alleged. That ruined the Jane and Stephen love story for me.

Oh that is despicable. I LOVE IT!

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Hawking has always denied there was any abuse, but he did say their marriage was 'turbulent'. However, jane had already been in a close relatuonship with jonathan for some years before he began his relationship with Elaine.

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Personally I thought Elaine should have been kept out of the film. She came off as a predator preying on a disabled man. I couldn't tell in their meeting scene if they're both flirting or she's just flirting with him. Her entire appearance was just distasteful.

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well, i think it would have been difficult to avoid showing her, as her relationship with Stephen was i suppose what gave Stephen the impetus to leave jane. the alternative would hVe been to end the film before their breKup, which would have left the story unfinished.

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ok i see your point. i agree with that. that scene with the magazine was just unnecessary and icky though.

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It's not good for disabled people to be viewed as 'sexless' (speaking as a disabled man, myself).






"Your mother puts license plates in your underwear? How do you sit?!"

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It's not good for disabled people to be viewed as 'sexless' (speaking as a disabled man, myself).


i am a disabled woman as well. (spina bifida) i have no problems with disabled people showed having sex. in fact, they were kind of prudish with jane and stephen's love scenes. a kiss and then BOOM, a baby. i was commenting more on how the actress playing elaine chose to play the role. (or maybe how jane wrote her) she was skeevy and icky and trashy and ugh. reminded me of like a pedophile hitting on a minor or something. ugh.

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Fair enough - but that isn't how I saw it... It was HIS magazine, SHE didn't send it to him, and he would've needed some help to look at it, so she helped... I don't see the problem.

He's a grown man, he looked like he was enjoying it, and I'm sure if he'd wanted her to stop he could've told her somehow (although it would take time), so imo it's nothing like "a paedophile and a minor"... That's slightly insulting, both to the person obtaining consent, and to the grown man who's being infantilised... It's fair enough if you aren't keen on porn or the people who enjoy it, but I don't think that should colour the interpretation of the scene.






"Your mother puts license plates in your underwear? How do you sit?!"

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Jane hawking asked film makers to not show them having sex. They honored her request.
Showing him to be a sexless disabled person would be leaving out their kids together. Just because it has a love story doesn't mean they need to have love scenes.
It's romantic and sex was alluded to and not as talked about back than,as much as it is now.

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I had a feeling throughout the movie that Jane must have written the screenplay.
After all, she's a perfect angel throughout the entire movie.

Then, after all her years of martyrdom and suffering and charity,
Stephen abruptly tells her that he's traveling to America with Elaine.
No explanation.
Just being a big bad man to a poor, saint who never did any wrong
(that's how I felt watching the movie).

Then sure enough, I did a minute of googling and discovered my prediction was correct.
Jane wrote the book that this movie is based on.

And one more thing..
The thing I hate more than anything
on imdb is reading everyone's signature.

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admitting to having feelings for another man while being married is doing nothing wrong? man, your moral meter is on the same level as hades.

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