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I don't really get it. How does that relate to humans? It's a racial thing but I don't under stand. Can someone explain?
shareI agree (im assuming your question is rhetoric) the whole movie is very socially political and this was a definite nod to the racial slurs minorities call each other but if your not that race you arent "allowed to say it". I still wonder if the message was ridiculous that hypocrisy is or if they actually thought it hepwd people "understand". It still seemed arrogant to me, if any minority doesnt like hearing a word from certain people, they shouldnt use it at all, its thinking like that is what actually keeps racism alive, its not empowering, its just another form of segregation, which is racist.
shareYou're certainly welcome to your opinion on the matter, and really I won't say I entirely disagree with the sentiment. But don't you think it's a tad bit arrogant yourself to essentially say "I don't like the way some people use certain words. They should only use it in the way I approve of"?
shareI say this totally un heated or arrogant. I think you mis-read my quote (and I apologize for the typos). Your quote you wrote is not reflective of my opinion. My perspective was that if any person does not to be called a name (either derogatory or hurtful) it would be hypocritcal for them to use it. Example if an overweight person hates when people call them "fat" they shouldnt go up to their other overweight friends and say "hey fatso". Thats what im saying, its not empowering is merely creating another barrier which is contradictory to the message of anti racism. Its not how or what I approve of, its whatever the individual approves of by his standard of what is inappropriate or offensive.
shareI think I understand, but while I do not believe you're being purposefully mean or arrogant, but I do still think you are being unintentionally arrogant and a bit hypocritical yourself. You are declaring that is wrong for an overweight person, for example, to find it offensive when a average-weight person says something like "fatso" but not be offended when a fellow fat person says something like "fatso." In other words, you do not approve of them using and perceiving the word "fatso" in this manner. You are saying it is not okay, which is synonymous to saying you do not APPROVE of them using this word in this manner. You are essentially criticizing others for the way they would like a word to be used around them, while simultaneously stating that only YOUR way of using the word (e.g., "fatso" is either always ok or it's never ok) should be acceptable and a differing opinion from yours (e.g., a fat person being ok with another fat person saying "fatso" but not an average weight person) is arrogant and hypocritical.
I would simply counter that no one person can simply make these kinds of rules for others. Would it not be best for us all to try our best and respect each other's preferences? For example, if you have black friend who is ok with you calling them a *beep* but you meet another black person who is not ok with you calling them a *beep* wouldn't the best thing to do simply be to respect the second person's wishes rather than argue "How dare you! My black friend lets me call him that! You let other black people call you that! You're being hypocritical and arrogant!"?
OMGKUNGPOWFTW: This is a great post. Thanks.
shareBoston Public actually had a very good episode on the subject where they talked to the kids at school and asked them about the use of the N word. Why is it okay that when a black person say it to another black person but not when a white person say it.
The whole thing began because 2 friends, one white and one black, used that word on each other - in a friendly matter. They said that they are both friends and use that word often and had no problem.
But other kids (both white and black) had a problem with them using the word.
The episode then had a teacher that raised all sorts of situations and asked them "if this is okay, why and why not"
They never gave an official answer or a resolution on the issue. The gist of it all was that anyone can take anything in any number of ways and no matter how much you try to understand the other position, you are not them and you won't get it.
Sorry for the late reply but I saw this thread just now. I think your example is not so relevant here. A better example would be if we have two black guys and a white guy and one of the black guys used a certain word to describe the other and the white guy used the same word on that person and the black guy found it acceptable from the black person but not from the white, this simply means that he is racist. And if the white guy used it because he feels different then he is racist. and if the black guy saying the word to the other said it because he feels he and the other black guy are different from the white then he is racist too.
So what I'm trying to say is that if u're not racist you should feel that the difference in color is not significant.. the same with the fatso example.. etc.
I hope that one day we would get there
I think that until you've lived a life marred by prejudice and the message that your appearance makes you lesser than others as well as being regularly targeted for said appearance, you're not qualified to speak on such matters. If a person in a minority group chooses to use a derogatory word as empowering, I don't really feel like it's any else's place to decide whether that is or isn't acceptable. It shouldn't continue racism because a person outside that race shouldn't have to eliminate that word from the world's vocabulary to know that it's racist and they certainly should know by now that judging someone and excluding them based on superficial prejudice is wrong regardless.
No one should have to stop hearing a specific word to understand how to be a decent human being. Hearing a black person call another black person that word shouldn't make you stop and think, "Huh, I guess it is okay to hate people based on their race." Just like hearing a fat person call another person fatso, shouldn't make you say, "Hey, I guess I should hate all fat people." If you haven't learned by now why that word is different coming from a white person and why hearing it used shouldn't make you feel like it's okay to call people that, thenI think the problem is with you.
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