How frustrating


This had all the elements of a potentially good action/adventure/ancient mysteries movie. It is unfathomably why they opted to say "nah, let's be a B horror movie instead." The found footage/shaky cam thing was pointless. If they had just straight out filmed it and dropped the "too dark to see" stuff, the wildly shaking camera scenes, the flickering cutting-out lights, etc., this would have all played out really well. It was a good story with a solid puzzle, a great setting, and a decent cast. Who takes that kind of a winning combo and intentionally turns it into garbage?


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wtf are you talking about? this is one if the better pov movies out there. go back to your little box where everyone shoots movies and tells stories exactly the same, ok?

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wtf are you talking about? this is one if the better pov movies out there. go back to your little box where everyone shoots movies and tells stories exactly the same, ok?


Telling stories exactly the same... like the endless vomit of "found footage/shaky cam" garbage flooding the screens? You somehow think that's a unique and forward-thinking film technique and anything else is derivative and formulaic? Thanks for the chuckle.



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Are you 12? 13? You are saying its impossible for a pov movie to not affect a good story?

You somehow think that's a unique and forward-thinking film technique and anything else is derivative and formulaic
no. Im just saying this movie is one of the better pov style movie and the box your draw your opinions from is a small and sad one. 

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So my box of "all film styles outside of POV" is the small one. Gotcha.


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I don't think Americans would go for a European National Treasure, even if Nicholas Cage was in it. With the exception of horror movies Americans tend to lose interest in stuff that isn't just all about how great America is. they would probably turn this off if it wasn't a horror and go find some lard to gnaw on or a pageant to enter their kids in.



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I don't think Americans would go for a European National Treasure, even if Nicholas Cage was in it. With the exception of horror movies Americans tend to lose interest in stuff that isn't just all about how great America is. they would probably turn this off if it wasn't a horror and go find some lard to gnaw on or a pageant to enter their kids in.



Heh. While what you say is sadly true, there a few of us out there who have never seen an episode of Duck Dynasty and actually find it appalling that a despotic reality TV host could be considered a good idea as a geopolitical leader. That said, I enjoy well-made horror as much as anyone, and I do think it's fine that AA/SB was a horror movie; I just hate that they went with the lowest common denominator with their choices, guaranteeing it could never be more than a slightly-better-than-average B movie.


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I don't think it really played out that way. It was probably more like, "

"What can we make with this budget?"

"Ok POV it is- to hide our low budget. But that doesn't mean we're gonna skimp out in the story/creativity department."

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Really Americans wouldn't go for it? Hmm.... American Werewolf in London, American Werewolf in Paris too, The Mummy franchise, and actually there was a movie like 10 years ago called Catacombs that was good (it had Pink in it lol), there are tons of great ones set in other countries that many of us enjoy...

I also agree that the found footage genre is getting played out. It's not an element that really adds to a story and makes me feel like when I watch a YouTube video and desperately want the person filming to get their *beep* together lol. But that isn't to say there are some that are very good. If it puts me in a box to say that then so be it? I don't think it does, it's just an opinion. But for a lot of that genre it just feels like they are shirking any responsibility to have a decent script. One of my favorite ones though was Chronicle.

Also a reminder, that's just my opinion so no need to insult me.

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Ummm, maybe because we are dealing with subjective opinions here and that's what YOU may like in a movie, but obviously these filmmakers have different opinions and desires, entirely.

I guess from now on, before somebody makes a movie they should ask you what kind of movie to make? I can't believe people still don't get that this is all about subjective opinions and when they say stuff like this, they look like idiots. Discussing or criticizing small choices the filmmakers made in a movie is one thing, but wishing they made an entirely different movie with a different story is just beyond comprehension. This was obviously the story they wanted to tell, just like every other movie is the story they want to tell, and maybe your thoughts never even crossed their mind as a possibility. But maybe somebody else will make that movie someday, since you had good ideas, but this movie was a horror movie because that's what they wanted to make and you wishing they made a different movie entirely is silly. Really, arguing over something that's entirely about opinions is equivalent to arguing over the color of someone's shirt.

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i'm with you 100%.

loved the concepts but they totally lost me with the cinematography. it's sadly poor by even found footage standards. this could've been one of my favorite horrors this century.

imo

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Shaky cam/found footage can be really useful if handled correctly. I believe it's a much harder task to do properly than static/steadycam though, but I see nothing wrong with the approach in general.

This movie however, is certainly not an example of good use of it.
Unfortunately, a tool that can elevate a movie in the hands of a master can be used to hide low budget/lazy filming very easily.

Generally I have a rule that if more than 90% of the screen is just pure black and there not an intentional high contrast motif, it's a wasted frame, and shouldn't be in a movie. This movie used those moments WAY to much.
I want to watch a movie, not listen to an audiobook of people gasping and screaming.

That being said, I liked the movie despite it's drawback.


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