So Now What?


Based on the latest from CBS/Paramount, how does STC respond? 30 minute episodes broken into two parts?



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the latest from CBS/Paramount


I am sorry. I am a newcomer. To what does this refer?

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Never mind. I looked it up http://jacksonville.com/news/georgia/2016-06-24/story/future-kingsland-ga-star-trek-studio-question-following-cbsparamount


This truly sucks. I think this production team has produced something so incredible out of love for the show. It only helped increase the value to CBS of the franchise. The company has no reason to do this.
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Star Trek: THe ANimated Series Continues.

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Unless Paramount/CBS radically waters down its new restrictions (or if STC can cut a deal), it's all over with, not only for STC but pretty much any fan production above the level of a high school play (and even they would have to be careful).

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Here is the information.

http://www.cnet.com/news/cbs-paramount-pictures-star-trek-fan-film-guidelines/

http://www.startrek.com/fan-films

Guidelines for Avoiding Objections:

The fan production must be less than 15 minutes for a single self-contained story, or no more than 2 segments, episodes or parts, not to exceed 30 minutes total, with no additional seasons, episodes, parts, sequels or remakes.

The title of the fan production or any parts cannot include the name “Star Trek.” However, the title must contain a subtitle with the phrase: “A STAR TREK FAN PRODUCTION” in plain typeface. The fan production cannot use the term “official” in either its title or subtitle or in any marketing, promotions or social media for the fan production.

The content in the fan production must be original, not reproductions, recreations or clips from any Star Trek production. If non-Star Trek third party content is used, all necessary permissions for any third party content should be obtained in writing.

If the fan production uses commercially-available Star Trek uniforms, accessories, toys and props, these items must be official merchandise and not bootleg items or imitations of such commercially available products.

The fan production must be a real “fan” production, i.e., creators, actors and all other participants must be amateurs, cannot be compensated for their services, and cannot be currently or previously employed on any Star Trek series, films, production of DVDs or with any of CBS or Paramount Pictures’ licensees.

The fan production must be non-commercial:

CBS and Paramount Pictures do not object to limited fundraising for the creation of a fan production, whether 1 or 2 segments and consistent with these guidelines, so long as the total amount does not exceed $50,000, including all platform fees, and when the $50,000 goal is reached, all fundraising must cease.

The fan production must only be exhibited or distributed on a no-charge basis and/or shared via streaming services without generating revenue.

The fan production cannot be distributed in a physical format such as DVD or Blu-ray.

The fan production cannot be used to derive advertising revenue including, but not limited to, through for example, the use of pre or post-roll advertising, click-through advertising banners, that is associated with the fan production.

No unlicensed Star Trek-related or fan production-related merchandise or services can be offered for sale or given away as premiums, perks or rewards or in connection with the fan production fundraising.

The fan production cannot derive revenue by selling or licensing fan-created production sets, props or costumes.

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It appears that episode 7 (which was for the most part already completed) will be released as scheduled in September. They are still awaiting clarification for anything beyond that. They might be able to get an exemption to complete the planned 13 episodes but, if I were wagering money, I'd bet against it.

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The whole Star Trek: Axanar fiasco has screwed it up for more reasonable ST fan projects.
When the Axanar project raised $638,000 on Kickstarter (total money got to $1.2 million), that was a red flag to CBS that this had transitioned from a fan project to an indie film.
Sad to see that trying to squash Axanar may kill the future of Star Trek Continues which I've enjoyed.

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The sad part is it wasn't the money OR the quality.... it was Peters paying himself a salary; Selling a ton of merch like models of Trek ships; trying to copywrite the Ares; selling Axanar/Trek label COFFEE, and attempting to build the infrastructure for a permanent for-profit studio with funds raised with CBS/Paramounts IP.

If he had just went and made the damn movie already (and he was offered to use New Voyage's sets; he didn't have to build his own) none of this would have happened and the thing would be out already, but he didn't want to be just another fan film... he wanted to be something bigger and better then that, and let his ego get the best of him, just like Lord Garth himself....

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Yes, feenix, the total money raised for Axanar wasn't the only issue, though $1.2 million total funding is going to get the attention of CBS.
The other issues are as you described where Alec Peters and the other producers of Axanar acted like they were the owners of Star Trek and they went as far as they could in trying to make money off of the Star Trek franchise.
They were putting Axanar almost at the level of official Star Trek productions like the new TV series.
The Axanar project was like a dare to CBS/Paramount. The result is the guidelines which is killing true fan productions.

Can ST Continues survive this fiasco?
It's a legal mess which I hope that Vic Mignogna can sort out with CBS/Paramount.

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Well, in theory they can always get Written permission...

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They aren't laws; just guidelines. I think most productions are going to be okay. STC is completely legal/non profit status, and CBS reps have worked with Vic on things like youtube pulling The White Iris.

I think the guidelines are an easy way to give themselves an instant ban-hammer if another Peter's shows his face, but it has been and always will be up to their discretion on whether to pursue legal actions against fanfilms. From what I've heard, anything under production can finish what they started, and STC had initially announced 13 episodes, and is probably in preproduction on a few of them - I am hoping that is enough of a loophole to get them all to fruition.

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Ah, so the new CBS show "Star Trek Discovery" will take place in the prime universe a mere ten years before TOS. Thus Axanar fallout and Garth himself might come into play (not to mention characters like Pike, young Kirk and young Spock). If true (and putting the million dollars aside) small wonder CBS dropped the hammer.

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Things like the guidelines were inevitable. You don't think Star Trek Renegades was a red flag for CBS? You can't just blame it all on Axanar.

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