I am assuming the movie is in a linear fashion- with the characters' present selves getting photos from their future selves and watching day by day how the story unfolds. Each night they replicate the scene to match the photo they received 24 hours prior, they then receive a new photo from their 24 hour future selves.
In this regard, the movie makes sense to me up until the point where we discover Callie's present self is sending messages to her past self. If Callie's present self sends messages to her past self, now we have three time lines- we have the future, present, and past- it seems to me that so long as Callie keeps sending messages to her past self to change the present, how can time move on?
When Finn was questioning her about the photos she had hidden in the drawer showing what appears to be an affair with Jasper, she seemed to be aware of this affair even though it didn't happen in the linear time line we are watching of their present selves, indicating that she remembers all of her past and present selves. If Callie's present self remembers events of her past self before she changed them with the messages she is sending to her present self, why can't the other characters remember?
The answer to your question is simply that the screenplay is not great. The story and concept is not great.
Technically, they pulled it off quite well.. it looks good. But they needed better writing.
You are correct that there's a gaping timeline conflict. But they're counting on not many people noticing. It's part of the reason this movie will never be rated that highly.
A 5 is a Seagal movie or an indie 80's Canon action movie like American Ninja; this isn't anywhere near that bad. And a 2? Come on...that's porn levels. Even The Room is a 3 or a 4. Uwe Boll movies are 3's or 4's
This is a decent, functionally written story. Technically proficient, and well-enough acted & directed. Nothing earth shattering. Plot holes exist, we've seen it done much better, but it's a completely watchable movie and will be enjoyed be people who don't ask for more than that in a movie..
The future never changes. Callie thinks the future changes and that the notes she sends to her past self can change the timeline, but they never do. She always sent a note telling herself to do the things she sent in her last note, except at the end when the last morning note she got was empty. She thought she could change the future, nothing can change the future.
Since nothing can change the future, there were never alternate timelines. The morning picture always showed what was going to happen next morning and the nighttime picture always showed what was going to happen next evening.
What elheber said above is "key." It's evident at the end when Callie thinks she could attempt to change things but the sign falls down and she doesn't. You can't change the future.
Obviously, with any 'time themed' movie, there will be paradoxes so I think some are being too harsh with their criticisms. So to answer your question, krille, in regard to what would happen if she just turned around and threw red paint on the wall.. as I see it there are a couple of possibilities:
1) This 'couldn't' happen. This is where I lean. The classic you 'can't change fate' type of thing. If she would throw red paint on the wall after seeing the future's message then she would have seen the wall as red in the future. Or along these lines, she might 'attempt' to change the future, but inadvertently fulfil things seenin the picture anyway. This is what happened with the scientist thinking he saw his death when he didn't, but it ended up fulfilling the image that was seen. [ Obviously we have to take some creative license here. It's the classic issue of "you see a glimpse of the future with your mother alive in it... so what if you decide to kill her in the present?" ]
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2) They might cease to exist. Sort of what they were all talking about earlier.. that they "have" to portray the same exact scene or else they might not exist. (I know they had some conversation around this.)
What took me a while to grasp in this film is that the images aren't of another future time line. It's not a future time line of the characters existing in running in parallel. That's typically how most time-line movies portray things. In Time Lapse they're seeing a reality that didn't actually happen yet. It's not a future time-line version of themselves doing the acts seen in the pictures by the present characters.
On Tuesday evening my future self sends my past self Tuesday's winning scores. My past self receives these scores Monday evening. This is the first time my past self has received scores from my present self. Tuesday, my past self plays these numbers, wins, and has a fantastic day. But, my future self couldn't have won on Tuesday because they wouldn't have had Tuesday's scores. So their days had to have been different. How is this possible?
Technically their future selves hadn't won at that time in the future, but were attempting to change their future by giving their past selves the results from the races which happened in the future so they could change the future by having their past selves bet on the races in the present. In other words, their Tuesday selves were giving their Monday selves the results from the Tuesday races so they could bet and change their future.
Sadly though Jasper was too stupid to realize that always winning and never losing would attract some attention from his bookie. This plus the fact that Ivan recognized his silhouette in the future photo convinced Ivan something was wrong.
The moral of the story is, "If you are somehow able to cheat the future, keep your mouth shut and don't get greedy because there is always someone greedier than you."
That's just the logic of the fixed timeline premise for the movie, which in and of its self, is very difficult to grasp. In essence, the people in the future picture had lived their past 24 hours having already seen that picture. So they had, actually, won the races that day. I had the same question when it came to Finn's paintings. Technically, they were his ideas, but where did they come from? He got the ideas from the picture. But his future self did too. It baffles me, but I think the most important part is to remember it's a fixed timeline. What ever is in the picture will happen, but more importantly: the day leading up to the picture only happened BECAUSE they saw the picture. Their future selves lived those 24 hours having ALREADY SEEN the picture. I hope that makes sense.
the affair thing happened months ago, before they discovered the pics, the camera was constantly taking pictures, remember? she just hid the ones showing the affair and then used them later to manipulate the guys.
for the rest of it tho, i agree, there were issues..
the affair thing happened months ago, before they discovered the pics, the camera was constantly taking pictures, remember? she just hid the ones showing the affair and then used them later to manipulate the guys.
Exactly.
If you recall, the first time the men go into the room and look at the wall full of pictures, some pictures are randomly missing. This is because she went in first, and removed the incriminating pictures of her having the affair, which she explained as just something she did out of boredom because he wouldn't commit.
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Excellent question; I hadn't thought of that. I think that's why the writers mentioned that they were all really drunk. Either Jasper really didn't remember, or he just didn't make the connection. After all, he really didn't have any reason to doubt Callie. Also, he wasn't really all there in the end of the movie. He was crazy paranoid, constantly high, and on the verge of a psychotic break. He was absolutely convinced whatever came out of that machine had to happen.
Jasper is using. What would you expect? In fact they had sex several times. I would believe your point if it was a one time thing, but with repeated affairs... he could probably forget about how many times, where and in which position they had sex. Add alcohol into the mix, which she mentions...
My take on it is the following: The plotholes do not result from sloppy writing. They result from the fact that time travel is impossible, and any movie or book that tries to tackle the subject runs headlong into paradoxes, and subsequently, plot holes. Even the best of them can't avoid the paradoxes. No matter how you tackle the subject, you can't overcome that basic fact.
Some try to side step the paradoxes - as Time Lapse does, and some of them run with it, and purposely confuse the issue with even greater paradoxes - like Predestination. The paradoxes don't stop me from enjoying the movies - I do like all kinds of Sci-Fi and time traveling tales - but that is what they are - fictional tales.
There was one scene where Jasper took a picture of the picture with his phone camera. I was really interested in that picture, but they never made anything of it. There was an opportunity for some mind-bending developments. Like the phone camera could not take a picture of the future picture, and instead took a picture of the picture as though it was the present moment. Future pic is 24 hours from now but phone camera pic of the future pic = present moment. Not that this would have resolved the paradoxes.
Speaking of which, what if they put the future pic in front of the camera, and took a picture of the picture? Paradoxes galore - one of which is, they could not do so unless they had already DONE so and seen the future pic in the pic. But if they had done so, they should then see tomorrow's future pic in today's future pic, thus revealing the scene 48 hours hence. But once they tried that they'd be locked into that strategy, and always have to take a pic of a pic of a pic of a pic, etc, and wind up learning nothing about the future at all.
The real paradox seems to be, once the first picture is seen, all free will is demolished because then you have to be true to that pic and everything you do is to make that scene happen - you're always living to make the scene in tomorrow's pic a reality. The ONLY time you have ANY free will is the short space of time between when the picture is taken and you walk to Mr. B's apartment to look at it. If you never look at it, you can begin living your own life again.
On taking a picture of a picture, I suppose we have to assume the picture comes off at some point, the sun blows up, or the universe goes Big Crunch or Big Freeze. On that day, the camera takes a picture of the state of the universe. That picture pops out of the machine the day before and lands on the ground, (if there is a ground).
But what of the picture affixed to the lens and all those taken in the days since it was attached? The would all be the same picture obviously, but of what? Actually it could be anything. It could a blank white photo. It could be a picture of a cat riding a unicorn. Literally anything. That same picture would just get snapped and placed 24-hours in the past every day until the original comes off. When that original comes out of the machine, it gets taped to the lens and never changes.
As for Free Will, I really don't see how not looking at the picture gives it back to you. If you don't look, end up eating spaghetti at 8pm, and then check yesterday's photo, and there you are eating spaghetti in it, it would be pretty clear I really didn't have a choice but to end up eating spaghetti.
Say you're Mr. B and you see the picture of Finn eating spaghetti. You know he's going to do it, he has no choice, but you watch Finn going about his business, completely oblivious. Yet when 8pm rolls around, he dutifully comes out, sits on the couch, and dives into a plate of spaghetti, just as you knew he would.
You could imagine Mr. B. getting shots every minute, so he's watching Finn doing everything the photos indicate throughout the day, sort of like watching a robot following a programmed course. Finn the Robot thinks he has Free Will, but Mr. B. knows better.
Take out Mr. B. and does that really change anything? Does someone have to watch a robot to remove its Free Will? An unobserved robot behaves the same as an observed one.
As for Free Will, I really don't see how not looking at the picture gives it back to you.
Well, if you don't look at the picture, you're pretty much back in the same position as before you knew there was a camera. That is, with at least the illusion of free will. But you're right - it's only an illusion as long as the camera exists - or even, COULD exist. If they have no free will because of the camera, than neither does anyone else, even without the camera. But if they wanted and they could, they could stop looking at the pictures, even better - destroy the camera - and in a few days they'd be back to living their lives without any foreknowledge and thus have the same amount of free will that they had before - except now they would know it's an illusion. Still, they would be free of the evil thing. The mere existence of this camera negates the very possibility of free will. I mean, they were trying to get every detail right for the picture, but they needn't have tried at all. Because they would HAVE to be in the EXACT position that the picture foretold, the painting would have to be perfectly the same, everything has to be identically the same as the future pic said it would be - but of course except for the big stuff (where they were sitting on the couch, what was in the painting, and that's about it) they never attempted to get every single detail perfect - nor could they if they tried. All this simply means that if there is a camera - or even the possibility of such a camera, there is no free will - because predestination negates free will. But let's relax - there really IS no camera, no proof of predestination, and therefore, there really IS (hopefully) free will after all. And that's good because I want it (I think). Gosh, that's quite a relief.
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My first impression is that it doesn't really say anything re whether free will / predestination is at play. Based on the discovery of Mr B's charred remains, the characters assume it is, and from there it's a fairly straightforward narrative where they recreate what is seen (Callie's morning photos included).
Using the above spaghetti example though - What would happen if Mr B had gone over and tapped on Finn's window at the requisite time, thus taking him away from his spaghetti?
Would yesterday's picture "magically" alter to match the altered circumstances (i.e. one fixed timeline, like the Back To The Future pictures)?
Or would the new picture be produced in the past creating an alternate timeline (er, also like Back To The Future, when Biff takes the sports almanac creating an alternate 1955!)?
Or perhaps Mr B is free to influence the spaghetti shot in an infinite number of ways, all of which would produce a new timeline, but not affecting the spaghetti picture at all on Mr B's current timeline (I think this is getting into multiverse territory)?
The only time the film itself moves to explore this is Callie's attempt to post her warning at the end. Does the message fall off because it always had to fall off (unchangeable predestination)? Or is it because the movie is following a timeline where it falls off, so that is all we're ever going to see?
What would happen if Mr B had gone over and tapped on Finn's window at the requisite time, thus taking him away from his spaghetti?
It depends on whether it's a fixed timeline or one that can be changed.
If it can be changed, then the camera doesn't really take pictures of the future at all. Just a possible future.
And then the question becomes, if the future from the picture isn't selected, does that cause a new time-travel event to the past by changing the photo? Or does the photo just stay as-is and everyone wonders why the camera showed a future that didn't happen.
The potential problem with updating the photo is an infinite loop. With the spaghetti photo, Mr. B decides to interrupt Finn's dinner and is successful. So the camera takes a picture of something else. Let's say an empty room. This new empty room photo then replaces the spaghetti photo in the past. Mr. B., seeing such an uninteresting photo, just stays home. Finn, because he wasn't interrupted, then succeeds in sitting and having spaghetti. The spaghetti photo is sent to the past, where Mr. B decides to interrupt the meal. The loop alternates between these two timelines forever.
In a fixed timeline scenario, we'd have to look to the Novikov self-consistency principle for help. This is often characterized as "something" out there will prevent you from making changes. Mr. B goes to interrupt Finn's spaghetti dinner and he trips and hits his head on the sidewalk, or he receives a phone call bringing him back in, or Finn just ignores him and eats spaghetti, or piece of frozen airplane pee falls from the sky and crushes Mr. B's head. Or all of the above.
But it's not quite like that. There's no intelligence actively thwarting your attempts to change things. It's about probabilities. Any event that results in an inconsistency has a zero percent chance of occurring. So, while all those unlikely things actually do result in a self-consistent sequences of events, they are just some of many possible self-consistent timelines. There are many many others, as this film shows.
Many of the self-consistent timelines have effects that cause themselves. The billard ball coming out of one end of the wormhole to knock its past self into the other end of the wormhole. The man who goes back to save his wife from being hit by a car, and accidentally driving into her. The man who builds a time machine from found instructions, who builds it and travels back to leave himself a copy of those instructions.
Similarly we can imagine a situation where Mr. B leaving to stop Finn from eating spaghetti actually causes Finn to eat spaghetti. For an example, perhaps Mr. B also cooked spaghetti, and when he leaves to go stop Finn, nobody's home, so he goes to check the parking lot to find and delay Finn. Finn walks in from the other direction, and stops by Mr. B's seeing the door open. he sees the spaghetti and helps himself to a plate. Mr. B gets back just in time to see Finn eating his spaghetti in the apartment. Click.
Of course, you can also have yet another kind of self-consistency that's entirely intentional. Mr. B makes spaghetti and gives Finn some, because he saw it in the photo. He doesn't try to stop it, he instead tries to fulfill it.
The idea is that any of these timelines are available to the camera for selection, so it will only produce photos that fit one of them. It can't produce a photo that will turn out incorrect. Mr. B can't stop Finn from eating spaghetti. If he could, then the picture of Finn eating spaghetti wouldn't have come out of the camera in the first place. Only pictures from self-consistent timelines are allowed. Our heroes will either purposefully fulfill it, cause it through trying not to fulfill, be stopped by a fluke, etc.
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I like the infinite time looping (spaghetti / no spaghetti) example you give, but would this be correct in terms of timelines that can be changed / free will at play?
Yes, he could interfer with the spaghetti eating, changing the photo to non spaghetti, which as you say probably leaves Mr B with a boring photo, which in turn would then lead to the resurrection of the spaghetti photo. However this is where the problem comes in - namely, the assumption that Mr B would again decide to interupt the spaghetti photo. At this point you're jumping from your changable to fixed scenario, i.e. once Mr B sees the spaghetti photo he will cause it to be interfered with, intentionally or not.
So in a changeable timeline / one with free will at play, this scenario could loop through once then continue on.
There's also the other possibility I mentioned previously of the multiverse scenario - Mr B changes the spaghetti scene, but his photo still shows the spaghetti eating Finn, and he continues along that same timeline, querying the seeming glitch in his machine.
This doesn't involve any "time-travel" whatsoever but would result in the machine creating a new alternate timeline commencing from the point of an alternate Mr B holding the non spaghetti photo (Akin to the Star Trek reboot timeline, without any time travelling interference causing it).
This is angle I viewed Callie's folly at the end - in this scenario, even if the note had stuck it wouldn't have benefitted "her" anyway. She'd have continued on to jail, with an alternate Callie getting the message...
I believe you're correct on the Free Will argument that Mr. B. could choose not to interrupt the spaghetti on the 2nd, 3rd or Nth time. I suppose Finn could also choose to eat a hamburger instead on one of these iterations. It's possible that quantum mechanical "randomness" could also result in slight differences from loop to loop.
So I see your point that, if one assumes the same initial conditions will result in the same choices being made, does that mean Free Will doesn't exist? I suppose the only way to test it is with time-travel. From out perspective, with everything only happening once, we only ever make one choice in each situation. It's interesting. We may never know if we truly have Free Will without time travel.
With information going to alternate timelines, I just have to giggle thinking about the poor folks who get the benefit of the machine working one or two times and then just stopping.
Say Jasper 1 got a useless photo, so decides to try and change it by sending back Day 1 race results. Nothing happens. He doesn't get race results and never will. The machine is a total bust. He doesn't even bother with sending Day 2 race results.
Over in Timeline 2, Jasper 2 gets Day 1 race results from Jasper 1. Yay! He bets and wins, and sends back the same results "to close the loop". He goes to get the new photo, but it's a dud. The machine stopped working! But he posts the Day 2 race results the next day anyway, even though he just receives duds from there on out.
Jasper 3 gets Day 1 race results from Jasper 2, and then Day 2 race results from Jasper 2, and then nothing. Finn's paintings and Callie's notes work the same way. For the majority of timelines, the machine is good for a time and then just stops. Only in the "final" timeline does the machine appear to work without interruption.
Unless there's Free Will, in which case we may never see that final working timeline. Jasper 4 may get Day 1 race results from Jasper 3, but then choose not to post any race results at all, breaking the chain. Jasper 5 gets nothing, like Jasper 1, so it's up to him, or some other Jasper to start the chain up again.
Because Jasper 1 only posts the Day 1 race results and then stops, since it clearly had no effect. His photos never change or show race results, so he gets nothing out of it. He helps Jasper 2 once, without his knowing it, and then stops.
So Jasper 2 only gets those Day 1 results and nothing else from Jasper 1. When he posts Day 1 and Day 2 race results, those go to Jasper 3. Jasper 2 posts the Day 2 results only because posting the Day 1 results seemed to work as expected. But when he posts Day 2's results, the dud photo he has doesn't change so he just stops posting results. I suppose he could go on posting uselessly for a few more days, since it worked for Day 1. But he'll never get those. Jasper 3 would, until Jasper 2 gives up.
Ok, my head is starting to spin a bit trying to work this through(!), but in a fun way. I guess this is the key line I don't get you on:-
But when he posts Day 2's results, the dud photo he has doesn't change so he just stops posting results
Why does Jasper2 get a dud photo?
Jasper1 takes a photo on Day1 (8pm) of the Day1 results. Boom, this creates an alternate timeline, Jasper2 is "born" on Day0 (8pm) holding the Day1 results picture. For Jasper2, the machine works - On this, Timeline2, he takes a photo on Day1 (8pm), as you put it "closing the loop" within this timeline.
What I don't get is why Jasper2 then gets a dud photo from the machine on Day1 (8pm)? Jasper2 believes the machine works, so why on Day2 (8pm) is he not going to be taking a photo of the Day2 results? Should he not get these from the Day1 (8pm) photo rather than a dud?
Let's make a schedule... let's assume Day 0 is when they find the machine and see an 8pm photo. I'll denote "Timeline n" as "Tn", "Day n" as "Dn". And based on diverging timelines, a photo taken at TxDy will come out of the machine at T[x+1]D[y-1]. E.G. a photo taken at T1D2 (Timeline 1, Day 2) will appear in T2D1 (Timeline 2, Day 1).
T1D0: Jasper 1 finds machine with dud photo - Since there's no previous Jasper feeding him results T1D1: Jasper 1 posts Day 1 race results, hoping to change the Day 0 photo. Gets another dud photo (no previous Jasper). T1D2: Jasper 1 cries in his pillow. Posts no results. Gets another dud. MACHINE DOESN'T WORK AT ALL!
T2D0: Jasper 2 finds machine with Day 1 race results from T1D1. T2D1: Jasper 2 wins. Posts Day 1 race results. Gets dud photo. Jasper 1 posted nothing on T1D2. T2D2: Jasper 2 posts Day 2 race results, hoping to change Day 1's dud photo. Gets another dud photo. Jasper 1 also posted nothing on T1D3. T2D3: Jasper 2 cries. Posts no results. Gets another dud. MACHINE WORKED ONE TIME AND STOPPED?!!
T3D0: Jasper 3 finds machine with Day 1 race results from T2D1. T3D1: Jasper 3 wins. Posts Day 1 race results. Gets photo of Day 2 results from T2D2. T3D2: Jasper 3 wins again. Posts Day 2 race results. Gets dud photo. Jasper 2 posted nothing on T2D3. T3D3: Jasper 3 posts Day 3 results, hoping to change Day 2's dud photo. Gets another dud photo. Jasper 2 also posted nothing on T2D4. T3D4: Jasper 3 cries. Posts no results. Gets another dud. MACHINE WORKED TWO TIMES AND STOPPED?!!
And so on. Any clearer? Maybe I'm missing something?
Ok, so I think your last post pretty much reiterated what you said before and matches what I'm thinking right up until T2D1:-
T2D1: Jasper 2 wins. Posts Day 1 race results. Gets dud photo. Jasper 1 posted nothing on T1D2.
The last sentence here concerning Jasper1 is why I couldn't see why you were expecting a dud photo. Jasper1's post on T1D2 cannot touch T2, as they diverge from the point of T2's creation, i.e. D0. The only future T2D1 can receive a postback from is the T2 timeline...
Ignore all the Star Trek dates for now apart from 2233 - replace with D0 and 2387 - replace with D1.
Then replace Spock / Nero's time travel with our revised T1D1 race results photo. In the same way the graphic shows the "Alternate Timeline" being born, this is how our T2 timeline is born. The two are completely divergent - Something happening on the "Standard Timeline", or our T1, further down the line, replace 2399 with D2, has no effect on T2 at all. i.e. Jasper1's T1D2 picture can never appear on the T2 timeline.
All Jasper2's possible futures, and consequently what appears on the photo he receives on T2D1, can only come from further along the T2 timeline...
Even if we rigidly stick with the split of T2, nothing can get to Jasper 2 from the future of T2, since any time travel event in T2 only effects alternate timelines. Jasper 2 on Day 1 will always get a dud photo, just as if he were Jasper 1. There's no previous Jasper to send them data at that point.
So I suppose my chart is more like the Star Trek. In truth, Spock Prime should have shown up in yet a third timeline, one identical to the Standard Timeline up until 2258. No Nero in that timeline.
It's possible to consider each camera tethering two timelines together, so that all results from the camera in T1 always go to T2, T2's camera always sends to T3, and so on. It's certainly bleaker if there's a timeline split for every photo in every timeline.
Jasper2 on timeline2 will get his photo back from day2 on that timeline. On this timeline tho, Jasper has already had the results back from day1, so as far as he's concerned, it works - Therefore his probability of sending the day2 results back is hugely weighted. This is no Schrödinger's Cat 50/50.
Don't know if you've read the Many Worlds Quantum Mechanics interpretation (MW), but this is where I always land up after watching / discussing these sort of films. What I'm thinking here is that the machine could cause these branching events. Although it's possible to view timeline2 as one fixed line, given the weighting on posting the results I mentioned above, I believe the actual physics MW solution would be bleak timeline splits you mention!
I don't really understand how the tethered timelines you mention would work - but yes, agreed as to the Spock issue!
As I first commented though, the good thing about the film is that it doesn't give us any insight into the mechanism at play, leaving it open for interpretation...
Well, I agree that Jasper 2 will go ahead and post the Day 2 results, since the machine helped him win on Day 1. I even included that in my timeline:
T2D2: Jasper 2 posts Day 2 race results, hoping to change Day 1's dud photo. Gets another dud photo. Jasper 1 also posted nothing on T1D3.
But Jasper 2's race results go to Jasper 3's timeline, here:
T3D1: Jasper 3 wins. Posts Day 1 race results. Gets photo of Day 2 results from T2D2.
Right. The idea is that Jasper 2, using the camera in Timeline 2, can't change his own past. When he sends a photo back, it doesn't help him, but instead goes into another new divergent timeline.
Awesome discussion in this thread about the film. It was a pretty good movie, considering how wrong can a time travel movies can go, I think this movie did a good job.
I agree with the Fixed Timeline Scenario. In fact, I was so into it, when watching the film, when Callie says "Look, the picture changed!" I thought to myself, "No, no, no! That's not how it works! You can't change the picture once it's out of the camera!" And in the end, we see that it didn't change. I think that sequence of events reinforces the Fixed Timeline Scenario. And when she's trying to change the timeline and "reset" the deaths, I knew that it wasn't going to work.
For time travel / the camera to work the latter must to be true. Even if there would be a different timeline what IS TO happen must already have happened as far as you see it for the people to whom it is happening. See Bill and Ted. They think about doing something and it has been done because if they are going to do it then it will have already been done. If she was going to tell herself to not get caught and was going to heed that warning then she would have not been caught and we would never have known why she needed to stop herself from being caught just that the note says she did.
It's like the you can't go back in time to actively change history or the event you are changing would never have happened. You can accidentally change history so long as it does not change the motivation of you going back in time or you would have competing memories in your head of two timelines - the one of the thing before you changed it, and the one of the thing once changed.
I guess this really fits in with what I said here:-
Does the message fall off because it always had to fall off (unchangeable predestination)? Or is it because the movie is following a timeline where it falls off, so that is all we're ever going to see?
If you replace the quantum suicide / immortality theory's gun shooting events with this film's picture creations, then that is what I was getting at comes into play.
Although it, at it's simplest, appears that this film plays out on a fixed time line, with predestination at play, there is nothing we actually see which makes that distinguishable from being shown along the appropriate "many world" path. I think I termed this incorrectly in my old posts here - they're not so much divergent "timelines" as divergent Universes...
I think someone already mentioned this, but just to reiterate: the affair happened. It happened way before any of the stuff we see in the movie. It happened during their drunken charades night that they mention several times; in fact, they talk about it when they see the very first picture with the lamp knocked over and they're trying to figure out when it happened. Callie just takes the photos of the affair off the wall and hides them because her future self told her too.
And no, it's not her present self sending messages to her past self; it's her past self getting messages from her future self and then, like they were doing with all the other photos, recreating the scene for the 8 a.m. shot. It's the exact same thing they were doing with the dog race results. And she doesn't change anything. All the photos happen exactly the way they came out of the camera. That's the whole point.
We find out suddenly that not only does Callie understand far more about the camera than the others, but she has been manipulating and correcting their events the whole way. Instead of being treated like a big reveal, it comes off more like a sloppy script error. So yes, badly done. And yet, it left the possibility that Callie could have fixed everything just the way she wanted it, if only the cop hadn't stopped her.