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Pike=Rise of Donald Trump


So, we all know Jason said he was drawing an analogy to American when he wrote the Pike Storyline and I know a lot of people were caught up and angry about Bellamy, but now, it time to explain some things that people are still wrestling with.

1. Bellamy was grieving and hurt after the grounders blew up mount weather. Bellamy always had a bit of grounder-phobic attitude (just like many Americans have acquired towards Muslims since 911) ever since season 1 and he only slightly learned to get over it after getting to know Lincoln. It was easy to see that Bellamy only like Lincoln because Lincoln Assimulated into Arcadian culture, something even Octavia was getting upset with Lincoln for. He had even become a guard and that's why Pike initially told his people not to turn on their own some started getting upset about seeing lincoln. We all saw it.

2.When Pike and Bellamy was talking at that table, and Bellamy told Pike that it was his fault for what happened to Mt Weather, Pike agreed but also blamed himself and said that he was mostly to blame because he Knew what those grounders were capable of but he let down his guard. "Never again," he told Bellamy and they both drink to it (many of you didn't care for Gina but Bellamy obviously did). That was the deciding moment when Bellamy when to Pike side. Pike did to Bellamy what Donald Trump is doing to his followers. Trump is comforting their grieve of "perceived" injustices from Mexicans taking their jobs and their hatred of Obama. He has also stroked their fear of terrorism by making them be afraid in their own backward because, like Pike preached to Bellamy and his other followers, Kane and Abby's weakness led to that attack! The same thing most of Trump's disciples believe; that Obama has made America weak. Don't forget that farm station probably had a lot of friends and relatives among Kane's group so when those people were blown up in Mt Weather, Kane's people were outraged to. And remember, Kane's group had suffered loses too at the hand of the grounders. Several of their soldiers were crucified in woods in season 2 episode 2, after Kane sent them out to search for Clarke and the 100. They probably all heard the testimony from the hundred as to how the grounders had been slaughtering them since they landed (never mind much of that was the 100's fault ). Then, to make matters worse, After All the heroic work Bellamy did in the Mountain, Lexa pulled out and basically left the Arcadians to fend for themselves. So anyone who thinks Bellamy and the other Arcadians weren't outraged and resentful about that betrayal sure needs a head examination! So in summary, the killing of the 100, the killing of Arcadians while trying to search for the 100,

3. Some people complained "Oh why Kaine held that election at that stressful time and Kane had to hold that election because he and abby had already announced the time and date of the election, which was, incidentally, right on the following day Bellamy, Pike, and Hannah was arrested for trying to attack the grounders. Kane couldn't just announce to Arcadia that he was going to suspend the election because he feared Pike might get elected! And, remember again, many of those people, led by their popular hero Bellamy, clamored for Pike's name to be put on the ballot along with Kane and Abby. If Kane and Abby didn't listen to people, they would have been facing the risk of a civil war in their ranks.

4. Apparently, the Arcadians weren't totally gone because Kane did tell Pike that vote was very close. So many agreed with Pike and Many agreed Kane. The fact was, Pike's faction obviously had gathered slightly more votes than Kane's.

5. Strangely, the same thing that tripped Kane up is the same one which has Hillary fluttering on: Trust. Yep, on that night at the gate when Kane and Abby confronted Pike and his band when they were trying to go out and massacre the grounders, Pike Sowed a seed of Massive Distrust for Kane and Abby in front of everyone! He loudly called for/forced Kane to reveal his arm (which the grounders had just marked with the Unity Symbol) and when Kane was hesitating, he cried out (in front of everyone) and painted it like Kane was trying to hide something dirty from his own people. And when poor Kane showed, his Mark and tried to explain, Pike over-stepped him and made Kane look foolish by saying it wasn't a Unity Mark but rather, it was a mark that people use to brand cows. As if Kane was a weak cow who needed guideiance! Same thing in our country. Trump rose to power by painting Obama and the democrats as being weak and suicidal, and thus, only He Trump/Pike could take us in the right way again.

In all, it was a powerful illustration of the state of America today. Yes, America isn't having numerous mass attacks threatening our home country like the Aracadians were getting from the grounder, so America didn't have chance of turning to Trump over night. But instead, America has fallen more and more under the trump-spirit ever since 911 and that's why, when Donald Trump finally arose, Americans were so suspicious of their own shadow that many are turning after Trump. And its worse for Americans then for Arcadia because at least those people had daily reminders as to why they shouldn't trust the grounders while many Americans are living in peace and safety while still supporting Trump!

So when I see people say the Pike storyline was bad writing, I want to laugh so hard! Because we're seeing it play out on a bigger and broader scale in this 2016 election as we speak! Brilliant writing Jason, Brilliant writing!


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I totally agree! I don't understand when people say it's unrealistic because it's literally happening right now. Demagoguery like this happens all the time in every country. I wish the writers would have focused more of 3A on Bellamy instead of the plot in Polis so that the audience could understand his motivations better, but ultimately I think it was written well.

I like your point about Kane and Abby being forced to include Pike in the election, I never realized that similarity. Before the republican convention people were speculating that the GOP could just remove Trump's name from the ballot but that would have just divided the party and country even more.

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I like your point about Kane and Abby being forced to include Pike in the election, I never realized that similarity. Before the republican convention people were speculating that the GOP could just remove Trump's name from the ballot but that would have just divided the party and country even more.


Exactly. I watched that republican convention and right around the time when everyone was calling for the delegates votes for Trump, there was a lot of debate on the floor. MSNBC interviewed one republican delegate who was about to vote and he said Trump supporters on the floor were acting like Brown shirts! Here's the link http://www.mediaite.com/online/gop-delegate-calls-trump-supporters-brownshirts-who-act-like-fascists/

I saw everything play out on a Huge scale just like I watched the Pike election process on the 100! In both cases, the voters were radicalized by a leader to irrationally fear a perceived enemy and they voted from fear, not from substance.

I too wished the writers had focused more on Arcadia as it would have probably open the eyes of nay sayers.

But I also have to warn that Trump supporters on here probably saw the similarities also and tried to protest it as bad writing. Of course they would never say that was their motives too.

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Yeah it felt really strange having this all unfold with the GOP the same time I was watching it on the show. It was the perfect time for it to air.

But I also have to warn that Trump supporters on here probably saw the similarities also and tried to protest it as bad writing. Of course they would never say that was their motives too.


Would Trump supporters see the similarities? I can see how some people see Pike as justified and if you're Islamophobic you might agree with both Trump and Pike. But even if you can justify their rhetoric I honestly don't know how you can make the connection between the two and still support Trump. I guess this election isn't exactly full of logic and reason lol...but Pike was doomed to fail from the beginning. Immoral or not, it was definitely a stupid plan either way. And I think the same thing can be said about Trump's plans, or lack thereof.

I feel like Pike/ Trump followers are just blinded by fear and aren't thinking things through so I don't know if seeing the situation paralleled on TV would impact them at all. Countless articles have been written and speeches have been made about the danger of a Trump presidency, but none of it matters to them. I really don't know how they can be reached if they haven't changed their mind by now.

I didn't mean to go on a political rant on The 100 board but Trump is just one of those things that really bothers me :P

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I feel like Pike/ Trump followers are just blinded by fear and aren't thinking things through so I don't know if seeing the situation paralleled on TV would impact them at all. Countless articles have been written and speeches have been made about the danger of a Trump presidency, but none of it matters to them. I really don't know how they can be reached if they haven't changed their mind by now.

I didn't mean to go on a political rant on The 100 board but Trump is just one of those things that really bothers me


None of it matters to them because they have convince themselves that everything anti-trump is spun by a "lying Liberal Media" who is afraid of Trump! Lol. Too bad they don't realize that what everyone is really afraid of an American Adolf Hitler in America!

It bothers me too! This whole Nazi funded-election bothers me.

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There is no such thing as Islamophobia. It is a made up word. A phobia is an irrational fear of something. It is perfectly rational to fear an ideology that commands killing , converting or taxing nonbelievers

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It's not a made up concept, and the rise in hate crimes after Trump's win should make that very clear to you. It is not rational to generalize billions of people, the vast majority of whom are peaceful. It's not rational to hate them all so much that people rip off the hijabs of innocent women on the street who have done absolutely nothing wrong.

You can hate the extremism within the religion, but it is not rational to hate the entire religion. It's not logical and it's not productive. When people in power like Trump engage in hate speech, irrational, ignorant, hateful people get scared and generalize that to an entire population. Most of these people live in rural areas and they've never met a single Muslim, which makes it easier to dehumanize them. They use that rhetoric as an excuse to harm the people who live in their own country. And on top of that, all of it just gives the real terrorists and ISIS an excuse to hate Americans. It's the most powerful recruiting tool because it exemplifies the rhetoric that they're spreading about how hateful Americans are. It makes real Muslims resent the people who hate them.

I encourage you to talk to real Muslims if you know any and not believe every single thing that the conservative media says about them.

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Why don't you visit France germany or Sweden and see how your liberal utopia is working out with diversity and tolerance .

By the way these hate crimes you claim let's see your sources. Because so far I've see many debunked quickly as left wingers fabricating it. Violence is a left wing reaction to defeat. Did you see right wingers tearing up cities when Barry Soetoro was elected ? Twice? No. Every seen a Tea Party Demonstration ? They even pick up their own trash when the are done.

In your defence I should have been more specific. I have no problems with American muslims . I have a problem with the 7th century throwbacks Soetoro was and is still importing at a rate of 99.7% wahabbi muslim vs. Christian Syrians . The same throwbacks hillary wanted to see %525 more of.

So let's see you cite all these incidents of muslima's hear scarfs being ripped off.

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Hate crimes against Muslims aren't made up, it happens all the time and if you paid any attention to a news source that wasn't blatantly right wing you'd know that. I'm not wasting time on your ignorance when you could take 2 seconds and google hundreds of examples for yourself.

You saying that "violence is a left wing reaction to defeat" is so one sided I can't even take you seriously. Violence comes on both sides. Remember when Obama was elected and all of the racist backlash that received? Remember when the Trump supporters were planning an armed revolt if he'd lose? It's not one sided. Coming up with one anecdote doesn't mean that liberals are the only ones who are violent and frankly that's a completely ignorant thought process.

Islamophobia includes backlash against American Muslims. That's the point. Many people don't just hate extreme Muslims and aren't informed enough to not generalize that to the entire population. If you don't think that Muslims in Western countries face discrimination, you're probably in an area with little to no Muslims or you're being willfully blind.

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The problem in Europe is their horrid business and employment laws. Companies are barely allowed to fire someone, so why take a chance on hiring an immigrant? In the US, if they don't work out you fire them and they go find another job or maybe start their own business, but starting your own business is extremely hard in Europe, so now you end up with a bunch of people who can't get jobs and have no hope of a future - pretty much the same conditions that fuel problems in isolated inner city neighborhoods in this country.

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I've been drawing this parallel ever since season 3 came out, and now it's proving to be even more true than ever. People would counter saying that it was still unrealistic, but look where we are now.

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As I was watching it on Netflix I thought the same thing! The fervor of his supporters fueled by their hate of the unknown "enemy". Pike became Chancellor based on the platform that the enemy is all around thanks to the inefficiency of the past leaders (Abby and Kane) and only he alone could stop them. Also the disbelief in his victory and subsequent actions mirror the way many Americans feel today facing an uncertain future.

Something I have to add though - while Pike was busy trying to kill the enemy and root out Kane and Octavia, he failed to notice that his own people were succumbing to a technology that turned them into mindless drones and it eventually lead to the downfall of Arkadia. Just look around at any social gathering and more than 1/2 the people will be on their smartphones. They are replacing any sort of real human interaction and it is troubling

I don't think Americas problem is Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton people...it's the "me first" culture that has been created over the last 30-40 years.

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In many ways you're right. But I have to say that it wasn't Clinton's people who proclaimed on national tv that they wouldn't accept the election results if Clinton won and promise they would have to "do something about her".

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I sarted binge watching this after the election was over and just finished (season 3 so far) and gotta say I thought the same when Pike rose to power; very witty thread :D

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I respect your aproch but wholeheartedly disagree.
I am an leftist. Socialist realy. I have no love for Trump yet I have a lot of respect for Pike.
The key to understand Pike is to acknowledge the situation they where all in. The grounder threat was real. Grounders had never quit murdering his people and he had played along Kane and Abby and imho gave their treaty with grounders a real chance just to see a faction of Grounders blow up Mt. Weathers again killing dozens of civilians and kids. So what kind of peace was there to respect at that point. Neither Kane,Abby OR Pike where aware or even involved in the behind the courtain aspect of Grounder politics and where Kane and Abby actually had (as far as I am concerned unsustained) faith in the grounders Pike acted on what he saw and knew and he did it to protect his people from an agressive barbarian horde of murderers and liars.
So if you judge Pile do it based on what HE knew and was aware of amd not based in what WE know as an audience.
Ultimatly Pile was pretty much right annyways. After Lexas death the Grounders would have come after them so when all was said and done History absolved him quickly.

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