What do you want to see in season 4?
I was disappointed in season 3, so I don't know where it can go from there
shareI want it to be as good as S01 was and S02. Also I want Lexa back.
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I want it to have more of the feel of seasons 1 and 2 with the remainder of the original 100 plus the rest of Skaikru and Trikru working together to try to survive the coming apocalypse.
I want some lighter, hopeful moments and not just non-stop fighting, violence etc.
I'd like to meet some of the original 100 who've only been in the background so far and I'm looking forward to meeting Ilan, the new grounder character.
I don't mind a little bit in the way of romance but not too much.
I don't want Lexa to return (and we know she won't)
I want basically all of this, although it's gonna be hard to get Skaikru and Trikru working peacefully together, especially having Echo close to King Roan.
I also want an interesting storyline for Luna and I want the show to move forward and leave the past in the past. Best thing is that, according to the trailers and a few spoilers, we're gonna get what we expect or most of it!
I want pretty much all of this.
Part of me would like to meet some of the 100 from the background, but the other part of me doesn't know why I should care about any of them at this point. I guess someone could suddenly come out of the woodwork and be useful, but where were they leading up to this then?? (good luck writers)
I would love some lighter, hopeful moments. I want Clarke and Octavia to actually be friends. It always seems like they barely care about each other, it's like they only pretend to care because of Bellamy. They are important characters and I want them to be friends for real.
I want Clarke to NOT make a decision that causes the death of hundreds.
I don't want Lexa to return because I don't want this show to cross over into some kind of supernatural situation, and it's pretty clear that she's dead. Twice.
I second everything linbrikat, gemjudith, and tplant36 said. ETA: and hihihi-42 :)
As for the unnamed Delinquents "coming out of the woodwork" and being helpful, I think The 100 does a very good job in referring to small things that happened on previous episodes/seasons, that will be more focussed on a few episodes/seasons later, like the Commander reincarnation thing Lexa talked about in S2, or mentioning Luna in one or two small scenes in S1/S2, and than actually go there in S3 and now in S4. Maybe there is something about one or two characters we didn't even notice that will now get more important.
"Who we are, and who we need to be to survive are very different things."
Calling them delinquents makes me laugh.
I'd like to add to things I'd like to see, I guess it is an affirmation that I'd like to see some of kids we haven't seen before, because I want more of the kids and less of the adults. Something that got on my nerves after the Ark landed was the way the adults imposed themselves on the kids who had been there and had valuable insight that just kept getting ignored.
I'm somewhere in between the age of both sets of characters...maybe we can rustle up a nice 30-something grounder to enjoy? RIP Lincoln (saying that aloud, I'm struck by how gross Lincoln/Octavia actually was, even though I liked them lol)
Not THAT gross. I'd say unusual. Lincoln was in his mid twenties, only a few years older than Bellamy, and Octavia is almost 18. Age of sexual consent in the most countries/societies is 16.
"Who we are, and who we need to be to survive are very different things."
Actually, Octavia is 16. Lincoln was around 27. Bellamy is 6 years older than her, so he's 22. Lexa was 21. Raven is 20. Clarke is 18. Finn was 17. Jasper is 15. They've been less than a year on the Ground, close to 7-8 months (?). So, if they've turned a year older depends on their birthdays and we don't know theirs. So, the best thing is to assume that their age is the same still as when they landed unless stated otherwise on the show?
Like you said, age of consent in most countries/societies/states is 16. This is a post-apocalyptic show, and the old society (ours) doesn't exist anymore. There are no written laws anymore. There are no countries, basically. There's nothing left of the old, basically.
Oktavia was 16 when discovered, and I thought about a year in prison. That's why I think she's 17, almost 18. But I may be wrong about her time in lock up.
Bellamy was 23 when they landed. That's what every site I know assumes. ETA: Jason said so in a tweet when asked about Bellamy's age, April 2014.
"Who we are, and who we need to be to survive are very different things."
Ok, that makes sense. I was a year off. Octavia is 17 and Bellamy is 23.
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During Raven and Finn's Spacewalker episode, he says she'll get floated because she's 18 and he takes the fall for the spacewalk because he's 17.
15 seems young for Jasper.
I always assumed the core group was all 16-18, with Bellamy being older.
I realize there are no laws per se on age of consent is this new society, but as I live in a world where there ARE laws, that relationship makes me raise an eyebrow if I really think about. I think it's because Marie looks the age of the character she's playing and Ricky looks his actual age in real life, so when I look them, I see a 17 year old and a 35 year old. I rooted for them on the show, so it's just a little thing really.
Where did these ages come from?
First of all we should take the over all timeline into consideration: By the end if S3 they were on the ground about 5 1/2 months. You could check out The 100 wikia to find a pretty precise timelibe.
Also we have quite a few people we know the almost exact age of by the end of S3, with consideration of the time line:
Clarke: In the very first episode she says she has another month before her 18th birthday. She's now 18.
Bellamy: Jason tweeted in 2014 during S1 that Bellamy was 23 when they landed. So now he's 23, maybe 24.
Oktavia: I can't remember who said this, but she is confirmed 6 years younger than Bellamy, so 17, maybe 18 by the end of S3.
Monty: In a reaction video for the S3 trailer Eliza said that Monty shouldn't have a gun because he's only 15. That's maybe not the best source, but I can't remember another.
Jasper: Considered the same age as Monty.
Finn: He was arrested for wasting oxygen (which was actually done by Raven) one year before the events in episode 2x08, when he was 17. Which makes him almost 18 when they landed, and also when he died 6 weeks later.
Raven: Just turned 18 one year before the events in episode 2x08. That's why Finn took the blame. Which makes her 18 when she came down to earth and 19 by the end of S3.
Lexa: Considered a few years older than Clarke, but younger than Bellamy, so 20-22.
There are probably other hints or even confirmation about the exact age of others, but I don't know about or don't remember it.
"Who we are, and who we need to be to survive are very different things."
I bow down to your research 😊
share- a more intimate vibe like season 1/2 with everyone back together, Bellamy and Clarke leading together, Jasper and Monty close again
- Farm Station flashback? Or at least a trip there to salvage materials or something. A scene in the trailer looked like that's what was happening.
- i'm excited for leadership parallels between Clarke and Jaha. I also want them to talk about Wells
- Bellamy to learn to live without his sister and prioritize himself
- Octavia to develop on her own and become more independent, hopefully coming back to her people before the end
- explore Luna's background
- flashbacks on the ark! maybe Raven's backstory with her mom (might be hard because no Finn) or Jasper and Monty as kids
- I'm also really excited for meeting Trishana. I want another glowing forest scene
I was also pretty disappointed in the first half of season 3 but I think it got a lot better towards the end. i think season 4 looks great.
Clarke and Bellamy to take a back seat while characters like Monte, Jasper, Kane Raven get front seat. Not for an episode or two.. But let them drive most of the season and make them be the main heroes of it. Clarke's triumphs at this point are becoming unrealistic. Let her fail.. Not just here and there but let her make a BIG wrong decision. Make the rest of the people doubt her instead of making them completely heeling to a teenage girl.
share"Clarke's triumphs at this point are becoming unrealistic."
I totally agree with this.
Your suggestion would be like turning the show upside down but it could be an original, unexpected twist since Clarke always gets away with whatever she tries, always ends up saving the day, it's always her and for once it would be fine that other people got her front seat, for a change. For instance Raven or Monty who have got brilliant minds too.
Just out of curiosity, would you consider her irradiating the mountain or letting the missile strike happen on Tondc not BIG wrong decisions?
I'm not sure which way I fall, I'm asking seriously.
At the very least, they were both decisions that made her feel like a failure and made the people doubt her. I don't think she comes out of these decisions unscathed or "triumphing".
And just because she won the battle with Alie, it doesn't look like that decision is going to be looked at as a triumph by all of her people either.
I think the biggest point is that she is ALWAYS the one making those decisions. And though she has a lot of blood on her hands it's always her decisions that payed off being the best in the end despite collateral damage.
Bellamy for instance in season 3 thought he was doing the right thing but he was dead wrong. Despite what he believed NOTHING good came from it... It was a complete and utter screw up on his behalf and people stopped trusting him because of it.
Give Clarke that.
That was a pretty bad decision by Bellamy, but I'm not sure it would have turned out any different if he had not gone. Indra would be dead.
I guess he could have decided to try to stop Pike's crew. The people will come back around to him the same way they did with Clarke.
Hopefully neither of them have to make a decision that ends up killing hundreds of people in the new season. I'm kind of over that. I want everyone to come together. They spent so much of season 2-3 scattered and separated.
Clarke comes out harmed after making those decisions and her people, somehow, blame her for it, but it doesn't change the fact that at the end of the day, she's the one saving them and getting all the credit for it, hence she earns the name of Wanheda and every Grounder want to kill her to get her power, so it finally turns out as a triumph despite it all comes with a price for her.
Regarding Clarke's wrong decisions you mentioned, in my opinion Clarke's worst decision so far, was trusting Lexa unconditionally when she had just met her.
How do you think the move against the mountain unfolds if Clarke doesn't trust Lexa?
It's an interesting thought to ponder, when I was thinking of her decisions, I was thinking more of a big action she took (or didn't take in terms of Tondc) and not something as subtle as trusting Lexa. It's a good point that it ended up putting her in a bad position.
Good question. Clarke should have kept Kane and Jaha by her side instead of dealing with Lexa on her own, it was too much responsibility for her. Lexa was not only the Grounders' leader, she proved to be cunning and smart beyond words when she was en jail with Kane and Jaha. Clarke was not in her best moment after she had to kill her boyfriend and most of her friends were trapped in the mountain, yet they left her to deal with Lexa on her own because "You're the chancellor but I'm in charge". Unwise decision.
Trusting Lexa "unconditionally" was the root of Clarke's wrongs. Of course they had to trust each other since they formed an alliance but if Clarke had co-leadered with Kane & Jaha, probably things would have played out differently, and even if the outcome had been the same, at the least she would have shared the blame and wouldn't have felt so guilty.
Use season 1 songs, make everyone look at how far theyve come, and more JOHN MURPHY
shareI want Raven to get credit for playing a significant role in everyone surviving at the end of every season. Pretty much every other character can die and someone else would be able to take up the mantle, but Raven has been the reason the Arkadians have won every definitive battle so far and she's irreplaceable. Without her, they would have died at the end of season one. Same goes for Bellamy and Monty who also play major roles in everyone's survival.
The Bellamy and Octavia dynamic needs to change. Octavia has a myriad of issues she needs to work on because almost every relationship she has, romantic, familial and platonic, has been toxic and abusive in some way. So no more Bellamy who takes shït from her just to make her feel better.
Less focus on war and more focus on world building, character development/interactions and fighting against the elements (which we're getting wuhu).
More road trips and mutant animals/glowing nature. I loved the butterflies, the huge puma and even the gorilla.
More focus on interactions between the younger characters.
For Raven not to be so isolated from the others this season. I thought it was ridiculous how Bellamy and Raven never interacted following the death of Gina whom they both cared about.
For Clarke to develop a personality and motivations beyond "for my people".
sorry about a repost but I posted this in the wrong thread.
What I want to see is the writers stop with the fear mongering lies about Nuclear reactors. Their are either ignorant of the facts about Nuclear reactors or they are using the show to further an agenda to stop nuclear power. If any of you have watched the episode about Nuclear power you could know reactors do not run for 1000 years Nuclear reactors are made out of concrete and steel they do not burn they melt down. If you would only take time to watch a Nova episode you could see the BS the writers are shoveling. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2661044/board/thread/265132870
ok that a side You people whining about Clarke have to much air time get over it as Eliza Taylor is the lead actress in the show its about her first and the story around here. I would like to see her grow up and not be so self loathing. You lead you make mistakes people die and some times more then often there is no good answers to problems you just pick the lesser of the evils people are going to die.
I want to see Octavia take over for Indra and challenge for commander if no black bloods well rise (we know of only one and she does not want to be commander)and as there is no need for black blood as the chip is of no use any more I can see Octavia kicking butt.
I think the writers BS lies about Nuclear reactors well ruin the show but we'll see.
IMDB the only site that sabotages it's own forum by deleting content. No wonder no ones here.