MovieChat Forums > Shingeki no Kyojin (2013) Discussion > I liked the premise a lot, first few eps...

I liked the premise a lot, first few eps were very good but then!


....then it went full anime on us.
With the endless droning, sobbing and screaming, nonsensical character interaction etc etc

WHAT'S WORSE: I picked up the manga because I was too impatient and I can confirm to you 100% that the story turns into complete S***T and way overboard.

I would have loved a simpler one and a shorter, nicely wrapped (mini?) series without too much crazy stuff goin on.

Not worth it imo.

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No one cares.

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Lol

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It started out strong but has slowed way down and is practically at a grinding halt right now. The fact that we don't have anything new to discuss except for how slow the show is should tell you all something.

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Neon Genesis Evangelion the tv series was far slower, all the droning, the sobbing, the screaming, the long pauses and the ten minute stares were all there, so much so that they were able to compress it in two movies very nicely. That didn't stop it from being a great anime and a classic. If you want something different to discuss then show the initiative instead of complaining. There's plenty to discuss, like who are the Titans and where do they come from? And are there more humans outside the wall? A lot of these questions will be answered throughout the series, but right now I'm enjoying the series too much to be bothered by spoilers.

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Yeah well the answers (at least some of them) are hinted at in the manga.

But my point is exactly that: it may look interesting now if you only watched the show and you may think this has got lots of potential BUT:

-the show itself is declining in quality
-the manga (which is about to reach issue number 50 more or less) is appallingly worse than the beginning


I'm just disappointed it turned out this way, as I was super excited after having only seen 4-5 episodes.


I don't understand your point about EVA since you say yourself it is deeply flawed by the same stuff I'm accusing Shingeki of being.

Yes it is a great manga/anime series, but it could have been so much better.

And I can tell you already EVA is far more concise and consistent than SNK.

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The reason I brought up NGE should be obvious. I wanted to point out a good example that despite what you like to call "flaws", many people don't see them as such, is in fact a deliberate and common technique in Japanese Animation, used to create a dramatic or desperation effect, and it is a very successful technique in Japan, exhibit A: NGE, exhibit B: SnK. The other reason I bought up NGE is because it shares many similarities with SnK, other than the fact they're both great and successful animes. :)

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Ugh. I hated NGE. Always have, always will. I don't mind limited action but stop freaking moping around. None of the characters were likable aside from that one kid who's sister was in the hospital.

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You said it yourself with NGE as an example. All the droning, sobbing, screaming and crying was, in fact, so annoying that they actually cut the show into two great movies.

I bet if they'd cut Attack on Titan into two or three movies everyone would love the *beep* out of them. All this sobbing and crying just doesn't really evolve the plot in my opinion (other than to show off helplessness.. but do we really need that in a show with the premise of "ALMOST ALL OF HUMANITY WAS EATEN ALIVE BY GIANT BABIES!"..?

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Wait 2 episodes (maybe 3) and you will have a lot to talk about. The Manga did the same at this point but then got intense for a while. It's slowed down again but looks like it will speed up in the next chapter or so.

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I'm current with the Manga and I love it. It does have more conventional trappings as it progresses but there are also plenty of plot twists coming up and the never ending violence with any interaction of Titans. There's a flashback scene with a lost survey team member that is freaky as anything I've read before.

And I love the anime too, but I haven't watched a ton of the genre so maybe it's just new to me and old stuff to all you people. I have watched Fist of the North Star, and Hunter X Hunter, Trigun, and some other one-offs or short series. I haven't seen anything quite like this though.

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The series is a little long winded but there's a pretty good reason why alot of the characters are losing their sh*t, they just witnessed thousands of people slaughtered or severely injured. It isn't like the characters are always screaming and sobbing randomly or without reason.

As for story, I completely disagree with you. By your own admission you wanted something simple and tidy, which judging by the ambiguity of many of the characters SNK is anything but simple. SNK reminds me a bit of A Song of Ice in Fire in that most of the characters are "grey" and the readers still don't understand the motivations or origin of the titans.

In my opinion SNK is totally worth it because it isn't simple.

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by No-Face ยป (Mon Dec 23 2013 08:33:07)

But, still, I have to disagree. The premise itself is interesting, but fails in execution. (1) What are Titans? Why are they there? Why do they eat people? Nope, here you have a bunch whiny kids screaming at each other all the time. (2) Seriously, what's with all the melodrama? Just because they're kids, they're supposed to shout all the time for no reason? (3)Also the pace, the freaking super slow pace - at least 10 minutes of shouting and crying and whatnot. And what's with all the windy images when they do that? What?
Ah, I see the problem now. There's a problem because YOU want there to be a problem.

(1) We don't have a clear answer for that yet, which I personally think is fine. Not all mysteries need to be solved overnight. If you've seen the show, you should know that the people in that world have a ton more other concerns that "just solving the mystery behind the Titans." What's the Island? What's the Smoke Monster? Who are the people behind the Dharma Initiative? Just imagine if people stopped watching LOST because they didn't get immediate answers in the first season. Of course, the final season (and answers) turned out to be utter tish, but at least wait until then to make your judgment (with regards to SnK).

(2) The problem here is, even though the show already gives you enough reason for these kids' "melodrama," you STILL think they're just crying "for no reason." Sorry if what's already obvious went over your head. Armin was constantly being bullied, which damaged his own self-esteem, which resulted in him constantly doubting himself. Mikasa's parents got murdered in front of her, while she got kidnapped to be sold to perverts, because she's "half Asian and would fetch a good price." Eren's mother got eaten by a Titan right in front of him, and prior to that he understood nothing of the world they're living in, but wanted to explore the outside world from what he knows of it thanks to the book shared with him by Armin. He wanted to join the Survey Corps so that he could help wipe out the Titans so everyone could live freely in the world instead of being imprisoned in an enclosure and feeling "like cattle."

(3) You want immediate answers to mysteries and fast-paced storytelling, huh? Maybe SpongeBob SquarePants fits your preferences better. SnK is clearly not for you. SpongeBob is designed for people with an extremely short attention span, so I'm sure you'll love it.

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The story gets much more compelling, actually. You must have read a different manga.

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Much more stupid and over the top you mean.

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I couldn't disagree more. I am happyn that there is sobbing and screaming, cause in such situations i am sure very little people would be able to keep their cool. It only shows the emotions of the characters and it shows they are human.

I've just finished the anime, the first season and right now i have very little complaints. If i had any, they wouldn't be about that....at all.

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Well when you've watched anime and movies as much as I have, you know everything is formulaic. Yes I figured out there would be more titan shifters (because the series would be unbalanced if you had Eren killing monsters of the week) and yes I knew that its all about that one giant mcguffin. Does that bother me? not really. I'm in it for the presentation. Sell me a convincing story and I'm in for the long haul..but not Bleach or Naruto long...sometimes short and sweet is far more memorable.

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I have watched the rest of the series, and I have to say, the stereotypical endless sobbing with flashbacks etc. stopped with Ep.14 and the pace got back on track. It was pretty engaging and pleasant to watch.

The story is however still completely stupid and increasingly so, though.

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Yeah, I watched the first few episodes in one day, and finished all the rest in over a year. It had some potential, but became same ol' gimmicky stuff. All the endless fillers and sobering, stuttering characters who scream everything. I guess anime isn't really for me...

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