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The aliens who arrived need our help in 3000 years?


A superior and more advanced civilization who potentially have solved time travel (or at least have a view into the future) should be able to solve their problems without the aide of an inferior race. And if they realize they are helpless somehow even knowing this dilemma is forthcoming, what can the human race potentially offer in 3 millenniums that their own species can not obtain?
I would like to hear intelligently crafted and radically unique theories that make sense...

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Are you too lazy or unimaginative to come up with an explanation?
Let's reverse the question...
If YOU were being paid $100K to write a sequel script what scenario would you create?

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laplante-co...........when imdb closes it's board I'll miss a lot of things after 16 years but I won't miss rude *beep* who get their nut off insulting people who aren't trolling but are just asking a question. Go ahead a wallow in your superiority, I've seen YOUR future and it's bleak.

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Take a deep breath... let it out slowly... and... relax.
Feel better?

*beep* who get their nut off insulting people who aren't trolling but are just asking a question


He's not just asking a question, is he? There's a whole lot of preface first wherein he argues the case against his own question. His mind is already made up... why ask the question at all if you've already discounted the answer?

THAT'S just looking for an argument.

If you review my posting history, you'll see that I routinely toss out the scriptwriter's challenge. It's too easy to come up with a million reasons why SOMEONE ELSE's solution is wrong. That's lazy.

But, if they come out with a hypothesis of their own first -- demonstrating that they've put some effort and care into the movie they watched -- then I'm happy to respond in kind.

It's my way of saying: You go first. Show me that you're sincere.






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You are right but you were rude which makes people become defensive and stop listening to you.

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I will have to re-watch this movie, i didn't get that they where asking for help at all xD

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Her last extended 'conversation' with the aliens -- the one with subtitles for the benefit of the audience -- the aliens mention that they will need the help of the human race in 3000 years.

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I must admit I actually watched a screener ..

there was no subtitles .. I guess I missed a lot XD

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They were probably there but you missed it... unless the bottom part was obscured to hide the watermark. The subtitles were black and they were brief. They happened when only "Costello" remained to communicate with her.

I'm a real kewl kat.🐈

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illogical, Just because something is considered by some as inferior in a certain field doesn't mean that "inferior" species cannot help them. i wonder why people even have to ask this.

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I was interested in ideas from other people who have different backgrounds, but thanks for your closed minded criticism.

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I just gave you a template or a way of thinking that would answer your question while giving the opportunity to make logical answers rather than spoon-feeding you.

Also the topic is extremely open to any possibilities since they (the aliens) didn't give any info for us to go on (which means the speculations is not that important). as of this writing you got 2 answers below that would suffice.

It's not a "close-minded criticism", i just thought that the answers are already there, if not it doesn't really matter.

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If anything, the way he phrased the original post was closed-minded. As if he's not really expecting "intelligently crafted and radically unique theories that make sense" from anyone.

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yeah, the movie isn't that intelligent anyway to warrant an "intelligently crafted and radically unique theories". I'm not actually surprised that he missed the point of my comment, which was already an way to give a manual on logically disseminating the film. The first answer was already spot on. He was simply being lazy enough to come up with his own answers or maybe he's new to critical thinking.

The problem with that comment is that he was a bit rude.

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ianbuenav: what a complete tosser.

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Keep trying, with more practice you'll learn to give comments with more value in the long run.

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Humankind can travel through space, kill people with a droplet on a doorknob, create watches to call your house, follow you with a satellite, but cannot cure the common cold or cancer. If we could travel through time to find an alien race that COULD cure cancer, aids and such, wouldn't you do everything you could to make sure you could communicate with them?? To save people?

One thing that is a constant about earth is that it has many resources not available on other planets that we know of currently. What if this alien race needed one of earth's resources that hasn't been found by man yet but will be in 3000 years? This is what theoretical concepts are about. Not all people will accept this concept, but that's the fun bout having theoretical concepts and being a writer--you can create anything you want. I do recommend people read the short story--it's quite good.

I also think writers and film have made the assumption, causing viewers to perceive that alien races are far more intelligent than humans. Sure, they have obvious technology that mankind doesn't, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't need help from us: If anything, I think an alien race would NOT come to man because of our history of violence. An intelligent alien race would see that we kill each other/segregate each other based on differences and not accepting each other, so humans being open to an alien race? Highly doubtful--in fact that was one of the biggest plot holes I saw: the reality is, all those nations would, in part, would be afraid and attack, much like what happened later in the film.

(note that in the short story, there were many more spaceships--they condensed it to 12 to make it easier for viewers and likely production's budget ;) )

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And that is why they gave us the "weapon" so we won't be "inferior" beings anymore. They wanted us to be their equals to increase the chance of solving their problem in 3000 years.

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...The Fifth...Element!

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I was thinking the same thing too. Why on earth would they need the help of humanity three thousand years down the line. They'd have be so much more advanced it's crazy to think about.

Maybe if they said 50 or 100 years from now, it might be a bit more believable.

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3k makes more sense because you have no idea how developed humanity can be in 3k years. We may even surpass the heptapods in many ways. And maybe they'll just have a scratch they can't itch because they have no hands.

And don't waste time reading this line, it's just my pointless signature.

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The help could come in any of a number of forms.
But more importantly... it is not impossible to believe that, with three thousands of years of scientific and social progress, that we could not be equal to, or even surpass, a culture that is currently far more advanced than ours.

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or even surpass
That's an interesting spin. They could need our help three thousand years in the future we're actually more advanced than them. They are just squids after all. :p

I choose to believe what I was programmed to believe

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If Einstein fell down a well & the village idiot was the only person around who could pull him out of it, Einstein wouldn't complain that he was just too far advanced to need that sort of "inferior" help. He'd be smart enough to realize that he did need it, in fact.

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There is a big difference between helping one man out of well and helping a whole species survive well into the future. It makes no sense at all for them to need our help. Should we go back to ancient Rome and ask them how to fix climate change?

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Never in a movie it was specified that humans are going to help their whole species though?

Well if you give ancient rome 3000 years they may have a better answer than we do now.

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As I see it, it doesn't matter why they need us or what for. The thing is that they ALREADY SAW that we will be helping them 3000 years in the future.

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That would make it a parradox.

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That would make it a parradox.
Not necessarily http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2543164/board/nest/265775883?d=265972610#265972610

I choose to believe what I was programmed to believe

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No, they saw ONE future of an infinite number... the one that they wanted to ensure came to pass.

It's just the same as Back to the Future. Marty goes back in time to 1955 at which point an infinite number of futures are possible. To make sure that the one he came from -- the one he wants to get back to -- comes to pass he has to make sure that everything happens in the way that he knows they should.

But, the thing about infinity, is that an infinite number of futures exist which are ALMOST the same but there are subtle differences between them... as Marty found out.

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Perhaps the aliens will need humans in 3,000 years, but not for the humans to actively do something for them. That's what they want humans to think, but the real reason they need humans to survive into the future is so they can harvest them for DNA or stem cells, or as exotic pets or gourmet food. Remember the Twilight Zone episode "To Serve Man"?

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This movie doesn’t posit infinite futures

It presents a single, unchanging timeline along which we move

The aliens and those who learn their language gain the ability to perceive the future, but not change it

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